god you're wokring your ass off in here!
imagine how it'll look in 2 years. probably pro status at the rate you're going. *__* wao so inspiring
Lovely figure studies. I can sense a lot of sensitivity and thought behind the line work.
When you do self portraits, squint and study the edges you see. Make any hard edge hard, make any soft edges soft, make any lost edges lost, and any make firm edges firm. For example, cheeks and lips are usually soft, outlines of cast shadows are usually hard, you can find lost edges as the hair blends into a background, and firm edges are usually in the areas where the skin covers bone. In Photoshop/Painter you can soften an edge by "licking" the edge over and over again.
Keep going man! Great progress here.
Hay man, thanks for stopping by my sb before, really cheered up my day.
Really dig the concept paint you where working on, you should do more of those. Lovin the skin tones in you last sp as well, even if you did go a bit mad with the blur tool And I think your TC is awesome, is that your favorite RH song?
Cheers mate, and where do you study btw?
Duuuude you don't stop! This is friggin awesome!! Okay, first off the figure sketches are looking waaay more awesome than before, I really like how you're experimenting with the different brushes and techniques in your self portraits, that's a great thing.
I like what's going on in your pencil rendering too, it's all looking really good. Props to you for submitting to Expose, as well. How do you get to do all this figure drawing, anyways? I'm curious, they're really looking great...keep trucking.
paperx: of course! Or what do you want me to say? Omg you're better than dan milligan already, stop studying and go get a job k... :|
last s-portrait is pretty spiffy btw, keep playing!
Gloominati: thank you...will keep working at it!
a la bapsi: haha the improvements aren't all that obvious to me sometimes but yeap, more work needs to be done!
sfa: thank you so much for the advice!!! much appreciated!
JailHouseRock2: one of them i suppose, I was gonna do Karma Police but thats a bit too obvious lol, might tackle it another time I'm studying Digital Design at AUT
sketcheth: weekly life drawing although just this week we lost the venue so no more life drawing for me until a new one is found
kingkostas: will do! thanks for the support!
wi2rd: thank you
PieMonster: no problem! thanks for dropping by!
Helioth: er....dude I meant it in a good way? Don't be so on edge all the time man thanks for dropping by!
Mischeviouslittleelf: thanks man, will do!
sorry for not updating again urgh...
here's some stuff:
studies...trying for a more subtle approach to rendering...
Dr.Sketchy Life drawings...the lighting was pretty bad....
Worked on the portrait for my grandmother a bit more...tightened the values but lost some of the likeness in the process...*sigh*
Last edited by paperX; February 26th, 2009 at 08:30 AM.
if you keep up these pencil stuffs i will subscribe, and i am not kidding...
Keep up and you will succeed in everything you dream of !!!!
Good job on the sp!
kingkostas: you mean you haven't already? haha just kidding thanks for the support man!
Janos: yeah true...I made it lighter+edges softer as I wanted to push it back to bring facial areas forward more, you know, sfumato and all that, might have gone a bit too far with it haha, thanks
algenpfleger: thanks man! your pencils are kicking ass these days too! thanks for dropping by!
kidult: thank you
another update before I goto bed...worked on this piece a bit more today...CRITS VERY VERY WELCOME
hey man, the shading in the latest pages is great just try to push the contrast a lil' more.
Keep on the hard work.
I adore your self portrait...do you think you're going to develop it further? I love that you draw with such confident lines in your life drawings...it makes them so appealing and lively. Really inspirational thread.
Progress Pencils, imPressive!
Really dig the self portrait and some of the foreshortening. And of course, the killer bunny devouring petite princesses.
Don't like: The line through the heroic male's side of the ribcage, post #490, 1st picture.
And the line through your grandmothers portrait on the right side of the picture (her left), it takes too much symmetry from the form of the face and makes the outline ambiguous. The one connecting to the hair I mean, I'd tell you to try and find some other solutions for this if you'd listen to me.
I like the colours in your 'wip7' adam's apple, more now too, but it doesn't quite do it for me.
Think more exactly about what kind of scene you are trying to build and what mood you want it to have?
It's getting there...
Although I still think you need (from what I can tell) to think more in terms of hue value chroma, maybe play around with some gradient fill layers and try a radial gradient hue layer to see how you can push and pull things with colour.
also, maybe you should decide where the horizontal water hits the vertical to get some real perspective integrated.
Of course, this becomes trickier the further you go, but, photoshop is magic hax!
Things to look out for: the axe is the same colour and I overlook it when squinting/ looking at the picture as a whole, is it important? Speculars are cool for this sort of stuff! Or maybe make it a different colour with the refracted light from the water shining onto bits of it.
the male figure, let's call him adam, has an odd looking knee/ leg, it's just... too indecisive for me.
maybe it's my monitor values, but i can't recognize the thing next to the log as being a foot.
realization comes from perception, yo, and you seem to be gaining in powers of perception.
I think some changes in attitude and or mentality could provide very interesting results for you though, so, yeah, whatever
Keep on keeping on.
Last edited by Helioth; February 27th, 2009 at 10:11 AM.
it looks better.The dress is really nice.
haha the subscribe thing means more to me.So i'll do it if you keep up !!!
You are doing great, keep up1!!!
I'll post replies later...too tired and need some sleep right now, worked on this a bit more tonight but decided to do some changes so many things look off...thanks helioth for the crits but I dunno where the comment regarding attitude came from ...
would love any input on colours...I swear I'm gonna do heaps of studies after I finish this thing...
The hands and the duders arm could do with some reference or observation, like how you brought the green dress colour into his arm, maybe more? Seems only on the elbow. Think about your light source, right now there is a strong light behind them but cant seem to make out which direction the light is coming from. Try a fixed direction and think about cast shadows etc. to help sell the lighting and form. Really like the gesture, pose of the girl. Combined with her expression, she really seems to be reaching for the guy and having some emotional response to him. Guy feels a bit stiff but not so bad tho...his far arm seems a bit short? Maybe drop his hand a bit more, the illo seems to portray him feeling bad about taking the apple so his hand not quite holding it so high (think oppsite of say holding something you are proud of) keep pushing!
Great studies man, I love the pencil rendering and especially the graphite SP in one of the previous posts a lot!!
On your WIP: be careful that you don't lose some of the qualities of the early B/W sketch (clicky) Try to name for yourself the qualities of this image: what are the things that attracted you to this images so that you decided to continue on this?
You might want to name those things, pick out the areas that you really like in the sketch, and see if you're not losing some qualities in those areas.
For me there are lots of improvements in the later image, but I think that it's losing some of the lovely contrasts from the first sketch, also I think that it looked better with the diagonal light beam coming through the trees. It creates such a nice diagonal composition that I think it's worth looking into that again.
Also I think that it might work to desaturate the surroundings slightly. The waterfall (if that is it? ) on the background would pull less attention away from the foreground when it was a little more desaturated. Also the trees could do with a little less saturation so that the biggest contrast is on the girl (where I think you would like to have the main focal point?)..
Also if you're a bit stuck on this, it might be a good idea to post it in' the paintover thread'.. That thread never really got off the ground, but I got some really good advice there and when you bump the thread up by posting it will certainly attract someone who would want to give their input on it.
So far for my input.. I still really like the image and where you're taking it! I think it will be a great image.
Hey, paper, I think we have some misscommunication going on somewhere, what I meant by attitude wasn't meant as an insult to your current one or your work ethic, which are great, really.
I just thought I'd suggest considering opposites and or trying deliberately to see things in ways you hadn't thought of (not that one can know which way this would be).
Noe had a really good crit for you too I think.
Seriously, only listen to anyone if it's helpful (thinking of myself), which your experiences will prove, not your estimation of the actual advice.
And most of all, remember what you wanted, I think the worst thing to happen to an artist is for him to become completely dependent on others and not know what he actually wants anymore.
p.s right arm on adam looks less interesting in last update :p
Last edited by Helioth; February 28th, 2009 at 10:04 AM.
This stuff is great.
kidult: thanks for the crits man!!! really appreciate it!
NoŽ: Thank you soooooo much Marleen! I really owe you one Didn't post in the paintover thread due to time restraints but will remember it for next time
Helioth: It's okay dude, you misunderstood one of my comments once before, so I thought I offended you somehow unintentionally. I'm not very confident when it comes to colours so I do appreciate the every extra bit of help I can get. Obviously I have my personal preferences too, but seeing other people's view and opinion is always worth my interest and attention i think. Thanks for dropping by man.
flamable: definitely will do!
sun.giant: hey...welcome to CA thanks for the nice comment!
okay...so it's 6:30am here in NZ, the sun's rising and I've just finally finished uploading my painting to ballistic with my slow as internet...I think its time to sleep
Calling this done, as far as I'm concerned I'm pretty burnt out on this piece, it's time to go back to studies I think...working on this has really taught me how much I still need to learn...
A BIG thank you to all you kind and awesome people who helped me on this painting...