☂paperX's SB☂ Updated: 19th September [Rough Animatic and Rotoscope, crits needed!!!]

[HunterKiller_]

Yeah, where are the updates?

Digging your imaginative drawings. I think your scanners too dark, and it's ruining the contrast on some of your drawings. I'm sure they were lighter when I saw them.

Update now j00 f00.

[bunny]

Damn, son, lookit you.

You've grown in leaps & bounds since I last dropped by here, then again I haven't been here in months and if you hadn't improved I'd be sending you angry IMs right now

Your pencil work is impressing me very much. Your general line quality, too... I think your improvement is most evident here: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...3&d=1194669775
... like... wow... @_@

But enough ass kissing! Onto my favourite part

What kind of paper are you using? It seems that in some fo your SB sketches, the paper has a certain 'grain' to it that doesn't seem to agree with the style you're going for. Like here: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...9&d=1197779873 you did a few portraits, but I think a lot of the subtlety was lost in the paper grain. If you can afford it, try getting a sketchbook with smooth, soft paper for subtle shading (this is why I have such an art boner for moleskines). I hope I'm making sense? I've gotten quite inarticulate since I left highschool so you'll have to forgive me

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with your work that you won't be able to iron out with practice. Have you done any traditional paintings recently?
-N

[paperX]

ARGGGH I had a huge reply typed up and then my firefox crashed (probably since i had 40 something tabs open....NOT a good idea -__-)

Thats pretty much half an hour wasted, and I'm really not keen to type it all up again so...

THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE COMMENTS AND CRITIQUE, on to some frikin art already...

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tried to be a bit stylistic one this one but didn't like how it turned out so didn't finish it


my cousin playing mario kart (its funny to observe the serious/scary facial expressions we make when playing games)



sketch that i never got around to finishing:



shit happens:



again tried to take a more stylistic approach but i think i might have exaggerated the anatomy proportions too much, the hands look puny



sketches of people in a cafe



more



doodles



more doodles



drew a random tree while i was waiting for the bus



more sketches of people from life



doodles, thats Hunterkiller_ and his bad ass cap + shades in the corner



random monster thing, i like the design but i dont really like some of the values, also i ran out of room on the page some crits on the rendering on this one would be great



some more doodles and some page filler quick gun studies

[Kronos]

nice man been busy much!

great observation here man thumbs up
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...5&d=1200281928

i like parts of this one
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...8&d=1200282263
the facial features of the girl are great, but especially on her left eye (our right) it doesn't really match up with the edge of her head if you know what i mean... you need to trip a bit of face flesh off around the eye. Also her hand is puny. the teeth on the dog monster feel like they are floating around its mouth rather than being anchored a part of its jaw.

i really like this ones man. clean lines that say a lot especially the knee... haha, NICE KNEE! i like how the shapes sort of continue throughout the helmet guns and design parts of the costume too.
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...2&d=1200282405

cool sharky monster . the values are quite confusing. it works a lot better on the face. but once you get to the chest, the values aren't really describing the overall form. i think you got a bit distracted from doing all the little muscly ripely bits i do too a lot of the time. Also i don't think the muscly bits follow the form too well either. they are sort of just straight lines across the paper where the torso should be? the rendering on the arm looks very nice though. just remember the point of rendering is to describe the form and cast light on it. make sure you know where the shadows should fall.
ah, yeah talking about this one.
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...7&d=1200282580


anyway, theres a few crits for you i think i was a bit blunt, but everything is looking great man keep pushing! awesome!

[Chris Noeth]

Thanks for stopping by my sketchbook and your wishes!

I really like your collab with kronos on the blob monster. I would love to see a painting of this one

Best,

Chris

[paperX]

Kronos: thanks so much for the crits man , honestly...thank you!!!
Chris Noeth: thanks for stopping by i might do that sometime!

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Small update: I joined Jens's Colour Study Class since i really need to work on two main areas I've been neglecting: my colours and my environments.

Here's one I did today:

[koppa]

nice dude, your making a lot of progress keep it up

[Lee W]

the environment looks good keep it up. One thing I would like to see more of is long studies (something I been neglecting of late) , I know its boring and tedious, but can learn a lot from doing them whether it comes out good or not.

[Samantha]

this thread allway be welcome !! nice dude

[sketcheth]

Getting better, man...all the time. Wow. And ten pages, too. That's incredible. I love your use of tone, and you've got some really interesting designs going, I really like the third sketch. You really use that graphite masterfully, making all your figures pop like that, even if they're flat white and unfinished. Great work.
Keep up those life studies, they look awesome.

[markey2d]

the evironment isnt a bad start, but it definetly needs some work, the compisition really doesnt work, it needs to be more balanced, and for the sake of studyin try not to overstate dark areas.

not a bad start but keep it up, cant wait to see the next one.

[paperX]

koppa: thanks man, appreciate your support
Lee W: yeap yeap...i feel like such a hypocrite sometimes haha
Samantha: thank you!!
sketcheth: thanks man, ill get oC up and running so we can do some drawing together again
markey2d: thanks markey! the only poor excuse i can have is that i painted it from a ref so the composition issue really wasn't considered
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another small update before i do a progress run through of my finished LMS entry

[paperX]

another:

[Kronos]

Holy crap dude! The last two environments are really showing a lot of progress. I can't wait to see ever more development here. Nice colours too. I especially like the little hints of mauve in the snowy mountain.

Get leopard working soon so we can oc!

[mc2mc2]

WOW i totally agree with Kronos. keep at it GREAT PROGRESS....
And I need to get leopard too

[Brendan N]

Last two enviros are great! Starting to produce some great shapes and the colours and values are really kicking!
Not much to crit on those really. It really is great seeing your progress dude, and your attitude always inspires me. Thanks for your visits to my book too, always enjoy reading your thoughts dood!
cheers!

[markey2d]

hi there, i really like the snowy mountain one, really capture the cold.
i know this may sound corrny but u might wanna watch some bob ross videos to get you inspired, all he does is landscape and the way he does it is preety amazing, hoever he kinda seelin you an idea. still worth a try i think though.
keep it up l8r

[paperX]

Kronos: thanks man!
mc2mc2: oh man getting an compliment from you is like a huge ego boost thanks dude!
Brendan N: thanks man, same here....I can learn a lot from your colours
markey2d: thank you, that one's my favourite so far too, ill try and check out those bob ross vids you mentioned

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A bit late....but here's my LMS3 round 1 entry...all of the entries in my group are fantastic so the chances of me making it to round 2 is pretty slim heh, but it was great fun to do this

The topic was 'Underneath it all'. Heres a bit of a run down on how I approached this (just for the sake of it...feed back on my process would be nice too! )

This is the idea that i started out with, I was going for a "Underneath it all...lays a heart of gold" approach for a sci-fi themed piece....but then decided against it.



I then had an idea to do a piece of with an racial statement, pretty much the vision I had was of a Nazi soldier with Jewish prisoners juxtaposed with the fact that "Underneath" all the flesh/hair colours to determine our race, all human beings are, in fact, the same. This was my first attempt:



I decided the composition really wasn't working, so I scrapped it all together and started on a new piece. Half way through rendering I realised my theme wasn't being communicated well at all, and the piece looked like a bad B-movie horror poster. After messing around a bit I decided add some illustrative elements into the piece...I'm still not very happy with the end result though, as I think I did not convey the message of my piece well enough...






CRITIQUE GREATLY APPRECIATED!

[sketcheth]

Beautiful. I wish I could offer something more useful than that, but I can't. It looks really good. Really good. I commend you and your painting skill. I am bested once again! I've got to get painting soon or else I'll never catch up to you.

[paperX]

sketcheth: rofl good one man, you catch up to me??? more like the reverse dude

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soo.....i update with a finished piece for once and get no crits or flaming for much needed studes? wow thats weird...anyways some sketches...any Crits on LMS still MUCH appreciated!!!


a doodle done in an oC with Kronos...really need some hand studies


SP in oC


was supposed to be a DSG, but i didn't really like it (eww at the colours )


some others doodle in an oC with Kronos, again, need to work on hands


messing around with colours in oC, i sorta like it :/, really hate the bottom half of her face though (especially the mouth)


Sketchbook doodles


a sketch that i didn't finish for some reason


went out to town and saw some north american group busking and promoting their cds, really neat clothing and instruments (couldn't fit one of them in though, sorry dude!)


some more quick sketches of people around town


another sketch i never got around to finishing (I'm beginning to see a trend here )


Drawing stuff in a park


quick drawings of people walking by....im really bad at quickly capturing gestures with lines


another pretty bad one...posting for crits pretty much


sorry, this might be bad for your eyes


doodle page

[mc2mc2]

lol dood why is your self portrait so pro compared to your stuff from imagination?....I think you just need to draw even more from life

[davi]

awesome work paperx, the last image and the park drawings in your update are fantastic. The rendering on them is really bold and strong. Most of your rendering looks rushed, soft and "sketchy".

While at the workshop, one of the instructors mentioned that its best to take a piece all the way to the end, no matter the it takes, if you keep ending your works so early you'll never really be able to figure out what it takes to make a piece look completed.

I also agree with mc2, your open canvas study is fantastic and very clean.


keep it up and keep it bold!

[themissinglink]

hey man, havent seen your stuff in a while, everything is looking really good. Your pencils look tighter and cleaner. Those environments are looking badass. On the LMS piece, the rendering looks really good on the nazi soldier, i think the other skeletons could use a little refining. My biggest issue with the peice is that there is a lot of unneeded stuff going on. I dont think you need the birds or barbed wire. I think all of that stuff going on the outside of the image is ditracting the importance of the major figures.

[Arteater]

great work, your studies pay off quite well.
and your understanding of color is vary good.

[markey2d]

it been a while,
erm anyway,i love that nazi thing u did it amazing really pro stuff i wanna see a couple more those plz!
just take ur own advise and do studies

l8r

[paperX]

update before i go to bed, ill post replies later guys, sorry for the hiatus...Starting my university course tomorrow...wish me luck!

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Here's my really rushed entry for Artgerm's Pepper Project on DA, I realise I probably shouldn't have used a full frontal lighting, made the values and contrast look totally shitty and the whole thing really flat ah well....

I dunno if I'll have time to do some scans but I do have some sketches over the last month to show you guys, meanwhile obviously any crits is always very appreciated

[krossj]

Some cool sketches man. That last sketch is handled really well, her head looks a little too small for the rest of her body to me but that might just be because of the helmet anyway nice stuff man.

Good luck with the university course, cheers mate

[k-sin]

I should probably stop by here more often, your stuff is seriously great!

[tensai]

how's uni treating you? got you experimenting and learning?
let us know what's up and keep on sketching mate.

[paperX]

krossj: thanks so much for the crit man
k-sin: thanks man, you should start a sketchbook and get involved with the community!
tensai: shit dude, i'm so touched that you can still even remember this crappy sb of mine uni's being a real pain atm...i dunno if you remember our talk last time when i told you how bad New Zealand's art education is....well its pretty damn bad. I probably wouldn't even be doing this if it weren't from family pressure and stuff...*sigh*, heck i haven't even checked out your stuff recently....im sure its awesome as always ...


No updates today, just wanted to post something to show that im still alive, yes I have been drawing in case anyone cares, its more of a case of being too lazy to scan stuff and not really having any satisfactory stuff to show University assignments pretty much doesn't have much to do with drawing at all these days so I think i pretty much went off drawing for a whole week during orientation. However, I have started going back to the basics with some bridgman studies so I'll try and find time to do an update soon cheers everyone....all the best with everybody's art!