S H I Z Z L E s

[Sopor+Aeternus]

Hi
m a 17 year old person who s brandnew here and trying to get beter at drawing..
so give me the hard critic please, no need to be polite just tell me so I can grow to be a better 'artist'
thanks

few charcoal drawings done outside of some buildings








and a sketch of a head done today..(can t draw realistic so..crap)


dont know how to shade bodys so..crap

[Fozzybar]

funny, that i liked the drawings you called crap

[Sopor+Aeternus]

Originally Posted by Fozzybar

funny, that i liked the drawings you called crap

that IS funny
and thanks

[USER777]

i kinda like those "crap drawings", too.. keep on doing them, your anatomy seems to be not all bad and the first one is a life drawing, right? always good to do those..

concerning those first few.. you have to learn perspective in order to be good at architectural drawings and such.. be sure to learn the basics before moving on..

[Sopor+Aeternus]

Tried to use a new media: gouach
tell me what you think
first attempt, cliche object (ok, no second attempt..the first one was too embaresing to post )

second attempt (sorry I always pic the most borring objects)

third attempt

forth attempt (finally something without reference)

[dadu]

hey cool stuff man...
i feel like your stuff is too solid, the apple is a bit looser
and i like the ones you called crap as well haha
keep posting

[Sopor+Aeternus]

some stuff I ve done few days ago
had this idea


but did not know what to do with the background so tried some colours, bla out
first attempt

second attempt (I m really cheap when it comes to paper, dont want to spoil any paper when it not nesesary, so doodled on top of this paper know it doesnt fit with the drawing beneath it)

and third attempt (this is when I realise that the background totally didnt fit the drawing, the pose nor the feeling I wanted to expres.. the character isnt frustrated by nature, that free beautiful field.. thats when I thought: crap did all those attempts for nothing! AGR!) but do tell me what you think about it

[Sopor+Aeternus]

a sketch I ve made
too tired of it to finish it
really dont know what to do for background..
help?

[nicrad]

Keep working--you show a lot of creative potential.. your drawings have an emotional content that is clawing it's way out. Long road to travel but you're young. Check out some of the construction drawing books: hogarth, vilppu, bridgeman. It will help you add dimension to your work (esp. without reference.) keep on. cheers

[Sopor+Aeternus]

so.. have way too much of that pink and weird blue paint..
errs.. cant draw realistic faces , but practesing!

[Sopor+Aeternus]

bla searching for the right colors..

[Fozzybar]

wow, that last one is really nice, but kick the background, it's killing the piece! And work on it until it's finished you lazy ass

[cthomp]

man i say just keep practin and drawing. and if you want to deaw realisticly just keep drawing from photos and you will eventualy pick it up. hopefully.

[Fozzybar]

arrrrgh...no why? Not from photos...draw from real life, that's the best way to learn...real people, real animals, etc...

[cthomp]

uh oh thats usealy what i draw from. maybe i have been doing things rong.

[Fozzybar]

*hi-jack-mode-on*

You said you were drawing from photos to learn how to draw realistically...i want to suggest that you should draw 10-20 images of one subject (like only faces, only anatomy or only animals -> zoo!) from real life and do the same amount of drawings from photo reference.

You won't need much time, maybe 10-20 minutes on every image...after that show the results friends, family etc and let them judge and judge also for yourself...

I would bet most of your viewers will like the ones with reference from real life better...also you will learn more about light/shadow, form, shapes, anatomy etc...when for example the light conditions change during your drawing session or the reference person moves or the perspective changes etc...

On a side note it's MUCH more fun drawing from real life, it's like watching sports in a stadium...you will experience the same object in a different more intense way compared to watching it on tv...and you can throw popcorn on people and bear the consequences, the question is if this makes much sense when drawing someone

*hi-jack-mode-off*

sorry Sopor+Aeternus for the hijack

[Sopor+Aeternus]

Fozzybar THANKS! after your speech, I ve became suuper excited to sketch some real life stuff (can t find a better smilie for it )

and tadaa the finished version

[Fozzybar]

yay...glad someone read it at all

The drawing looks very nice so far, but i have a suggestion regardin the composition: the red belt distracts from the focus, though it has not an equally weighted meaning...

maybe weaken the belts intensity a little bit would do the trick, something like this:

[Dose206]

check it out, i'm totally digging your art. now, i'm not a very good artist (and i don't have a sketchbook on here, yet, to back up my claims) but I really like your no reference stuff better simply because i feel like you've got an awesome style just waiting to ooze out of you. of course, on a technical note, doing drawings from reference (pictures and life) is an outstanding way to learn, but the style of drawing hyper realistically is (in my opinion) vastly overrated. it takes practice to learn how to draw realistically, but i think it takes style to catch someone's eye. My advice, definitely learn to draw realistically for the sake of personal growth and development, but don't forsake your style, and don't neglect your style (keep drawing from your head). awesome stuff!

[Danilo]

Originally Posted by Fozzybar

On a side note it's MUCH more fun drawing from real life, it's like watching sports in a stadium...you will experience the same object in a different more intense way compared to watching it on tv...

Searching for something usefull... yeah, its easy to make your own cheap canvas. Hers how to:

http://conceptart.org/forums/showthr...079#post533079

[Sopor+Aeternus]

Fozzybar that looks awesome! blah I didnt knew what color to pic for the belt and thought hell red would do the job.. but bla. thank you for your advice but cant change anything bout the pic anymore cuz its done with watercolors so..crap.. thanks anyway
Dose206 thank you for your kind words and advice
Danilo handy, but I m lazy

bla all doodles made over the past year during boring classes..

a pre-sketch for something I was gona do for schoolpaper, but then they screwed my picture up when they tried to resize the pic and it all became squary and you couldnt see anything of the pic anymore. fecking school.. that was the last time I ll ever do anything for that school..

yah dont know.. old

sorry it looks hell messy..but..cant really work with photoshop..

dont like this one at all except for the egg



something drawn with pen

[Sopor+Aeternus]

part II of the school doodles
(and I m reealy sorry bout the blue lines on the paper, cant get rid of them cuz I drew with a bleu ball point)

[Sopor+Aeternus]

[Sopor+Aeternus]

ok dont think that bla.. drawing realistic is somthing for me.. I m so damn lazy *sigh*
waterbecolors

[StrangeAlchemist]

Wow, 17 huh? I'll drop by again and give a few crits, but for now I'll just say I smell an up and coming asskicker. Great work so far.

[Pesmerga]

Dark stuff. I like it You seem to be drawing a lot. That always help. keep practicing everyday. and do more studies!

Sopor Aeternus rules!! I'm talking about the band of course i kid, I KID

[Sopor+Aeternus]

Pesmerga heh lol..they rule indeed
StrangeAlchemist thank you means a lot to me to get these words from an artist like you

ball and points

[Jack Frost]

great work, your style and you skill is very good for a 17 year old....like Foz said mor from life....if you sketch more from life and learn more about antamoy you will be so much farther ahead of other people when you become a professional interms of a skill and built up visual dictionary, and stop using graph paper what a waste of a good drawing...if you are going to draw in class you might as well use good paper !

[Sopor+Aeternus]

ball and points and photoshop
something is terrebly wrong with the hand.. drew the thumb on the wrong side.. :/

[Sopor+Aeternus]

long time no post



thought I d give animals a shot.. and drawing from a refference.. dont remeber where I got the pic though..