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calling it quits for today, still struggling with the design.
@ mongrelcat: Thanks! i´m still trying to think of an original plasma weapon, as soon as i come up with something, i´ll put it in
Dary: nice flow to the design of the character so far I wonder what it'll look like in a suit. Also welcome to the CHoW.
Stinkypanda: I'm liking this design much more than your first attempts, the anatomy seems more concise and you got some nice atmosphere going to it. I'd say have your secondary light coming in from the top have some more colour in it (As well as the shadows), possibly a more reddish purple to contrast the teal? The stark white makes for a creepy looking image but it seems to suck dry the colour from your scene, everything feels far too cold. Perhaps if the lights coming from the suit were quite desaturated too it would fit more and give off a danker atmosphere too?
Anyway a quick update, I've narrowed down my choices. Trying to make the characters suit seem more sleek and fish like, added some tails and the creatures have fins for arms too.
Wow it's fairly tough to maintain shark features without going full on shark head here - good challenge! Hopefully I'm within bounds without getting a shark head here...
W!L made a comment that I'm trying to run with here regarding all the bulky suits. I'm feeling that a shark needs to move fast to catch it's prey and a bulky suit will just slow it down. That said going for hydrodynamic minimalism, but please don't get me wrong those suits are pretty awesome!!!
Plan is power on the back, which can hardly be seen and a central fluid filtration unit chained across its chest with hoses running the fluid into gills on the sides of the neck and in between ribs, where there are more gills. The actual skin I'll be going for that seemingly smooth and streamlined look. Considering some sort of tail... we'll see.
Haven't taken a stab at this in awhile, and this challenge is off the wall enough to get the creative juices going so lets see what happens Been sketching my roughs on the subway in a 5"x8" dot grid book with blue pencil. Figure there is nothing more water-oriented with weapons than a trident. Hope my shark head isn't too inhuman
IronByte - I like how your alien has a retro-ish look to it. The glass helmet looks great, and I like the simplicity of the armor.
Here are some of the sketches I've been doing.
Some concepts, haven't locked anything down yet but feel on the right path, enjoying it so far
Last edited by foolangi; December 4th, 2013 at 02:22 AM.
Omw! I finished my forge master i have time for shark aliens
Ironbyte: Creepy! Really feels like something out of a 50s horror movie or something, great stuff. Can't think of anything to add, it seems you know where you're going already.
alicen6: I like this approach so far. Something about the face kind of looks like he doesn't want to be there, might be the little indents above the eyes (they sort of read as distressed eyebrows). Or, maybe that's what you were going for which is fine too. The suit is nice so far, but it doesn't quite have that wow factor yet. I'm struggling to come up with a good suit idea myself.
stinkypanda: This guy has so much personality. So uninterested as if he'd rather be anywhere else in the universe, and yet he's stuck here siphoning the last drops of water from Earth. Great stuff all around. I know you're already planning to redo the life support, but I'd like to see it a little more prominent; it's kind of blending into his head at the moment.
JB-Charakterdesign: I love the bubbles floating from the back, lol. It's such a stark contrast to the rest of the character. Is the vial on his hip like an emergency supply? It seems a little small to power the entire suit.
FlakoFigZ: Haha, good call. Kisame was my first thought after seeing the prompt, Arlong from One Piece as well:
Also thought of Zoras from The Legend of Zelda:
And technically Pokemon aren't humanoid, but hey, it may still spark some ideas. Has an interesting head shape at least.
Maybe you'll get some ideas from these too. I was considering adding some plasma arm fin/blades like the one above.
Vodoc: I really like how slender and weasely this guy looks. If you unshark it a little I think you might have hit on something really unique here as far as the appearance. He looks so frail, a perfect fit with the shape of the mouthguard.
Tchuk: Really liked 3 and 8 in your original thumbs because of the plasma arms, but 6 is the only one that really screamed 'shark' because of the hammerhead quality. Not seeing a whole lot of shark qualities in the recent ones, which is a shame because these suits are amazing. Great sense of weight in the poses as well.
DryShave: Same here, I can't seem to find a good balance between full on shark head, and alien that looks nothing like a shark lol. Great head shape you've got there, perhaps slide the eyes even farther back to up the sharkness of the face. Maybe ease up on some of those lines around the torso, they're so thick in some areas that it's hard to tell what they're describing. Really good start though.
Abrazuno: Awesome, you're drawing from all kinds of animals here with the tiger stripes and webbed extremities. I like the water tanks that loop around the neck, really unique. Not completely sure about the trident; it does make sense, but it's also a little too 'snug' if you know what I mean. Like you said, water warrior immediately brings to mind trident, so it'd be interesting if you could somehow go beyond that.
Dary: Great idea with the saturated plates as a warning sign. I think at this point it would be a good idea to simplify these things. First plan out the overall shape you want the plates to make, then make them fit that generic blueprint. Right now they're kind of all over the place, each one holding the same amount of significance on the suit rather than being pieces of a collective whole. Throw in some variation--make some small, others prominent. Consider only making the plates in key areas stand out, maybe only around the joints or chest area.
Damascus Elm: The twin head designs are really nice. Hoping to see that top left one fleshed out! Would really like to see a plasma sword incorporated as well.
foolangi: Top one's a great start. Maybe not enough shark, though? It still seems to be missing that one defining trait. Love how his gills are where the human nose would usually be, though. Smart.
Having trouble thinking of a good suit, so I'm trying to decide on the head shape for the moment.
Next experimentation step.
Noun, thank you so much for a good advise about the composition-task with plates - I first began to work on my own and then red your useful comment. I think I'd need to go further with it so the overall form of armour would be both interesting and well shaped.
Last edited by Dary; December 4th, 2013 at 09:48 AM.
I´m amazed by all the awesome stuff you guys come up with!
@Tchuk: Thanks man! I can use every critique I get and i´m thankful you took the time! I made the lights in the armor less saturated and made the top lighting more purple (at least I think I did..) I really like the pose of your shark alien, it´s almost like he challenges you to come fight him. Or her. Or it..
@Dryshave: I see what you mean. A bulky suit might not be very ´shark´-like. But I think ,given the fact it is an alien, it can be justified Anyway, really like your head design, nice shapes and edges, It kinda looks like he is awkwardly smiling for the camera, but maybe that´s just me
@Abrazuno: Nice sketches! Awesome pose and design on the first one, Suit looks very retro, one of the coolest breathers here IMO
@Dary: Most original body shape here would like to see it fleshed out!
@Damascus Elm: I agree with Noun, that twin head suit is a cool and original concept. I can see them arguing arguing with each other
@foolangi: Amazing drawings, He looks like a lone wolf (shark in this case) who hunts his enemies by tracking and stalking them, Probably because your gun design looks a bit like a sniper
@Noun: you are totally right about the water collecting device, I think I made it more prominent now. Thanks for the advice! And interesting looking stuff already, big fan of your style!
Last edited by stinkypanda; December 4th, 2013 at 10:11 AM.
I changed the Head and gave him a Fistmelee weapon.
Thx for the critiques!
Trying to figure out the suit design.
Oh boy! This is getting me all sorts of nostalgic!
Anyone else here that used to watch Street Sharks?!
I have got to find time for this CHOW...
Tchuk: I am really digging your direction thus far. I think my favorite was the hammer head suit.
Will post soon! =]
@StinkyPanda - I cleaned it up a little bit before bed so here's a close up. Definitely a creeper smile haha
@Noun - hopefully after cleaning it up this helps bring out the details a bit more... This is what I got before I went to bed last night before seeing your suggestion about pushing the eyes back - I'll give it a shot and see how it feels when I get back from running some errands this morning!
Thanks for the feedback so far and I'll be sure to get my critiques out to everyone when I get back as I've been slacking - my apologies!
*q* Awesome designs you guys! I just recently joined this community (first post too xD)and I was really excited to try out these challenges you have here
And this first theme I run into is waaaay out of my comfort zone xD This should be interesting, I never tried doing something like this before.
Here are some sketches I made to get me started...To get general idea of what I want and with that in mind I'll start making final presentation and I'll fix up things as I go along...
I feel like I should establish anatomy of it's face bit more...
Great submissions, this one was a really tough brief and I promise myself i will finish this one. I wish I didn't miss that babysitter one.
Here is my take on the Shark Alien.
noun and stinkypanda - Thanks for the feedback guys!
Stinky Panda - The skin texture on your guy fits nicely, makes him look war-worn and matches his demeanor. Maybe adding some more detail to the "hammerhead" protrusions, spikes/eyes, something to make them a little more dynamic
Noun - Would love to see some teeth on the head in the middle row on the right, and some highlights like the bottom right creature. Very reminiscent of a sea creature but not one animal in particular. The orange highlights on the bottom right are eye catching, as warning colors like Dary was working with.
Tchuk - #3 is my choice. The back fins/armor are attractive, It could be cool to see them a bit more prominent, maybe even housing some kind of plasma source. The smaller loincloth/armor looks better too as the large one takes away some shape from the character.
dryshave - The expression of your guy is spot on, he really looks like he's going to enjoy taking out some humans.
hi everyone, here is what i have so far. Also First post.
Haven't been here for a while, great topic, having fun with this one.
Great job so far, lots of cool ideas, here's my try.
Ok back and I've been a terrible slacker with critiques so here goes a shotgun blast:
@ StinkyPanda - At first I felt like your original face was honestly leaning more towards a pig with sharp teeth. After your changes and extending the eyes out hammerhead style I feel that was a really good move and you got to keep the nose! The nose still feels a bit like a pig, but I think it really works well to take away from the whole "don't slap a shark-head on this thing" requirement as well as adding another element of being an alien.
When you started adding the tank on the back I could see where you were going with it, but it felt like it was pretty much inside his back or part of him and I'm not sure that was intended and might have been a great deal of why you felt the need to rework it so much. Changing it from a rusty barrel to a tank you can see into was a good move as otherwise it comes off immediately as gas or oil, especially having chosen a gas pump looking hose and mechanism in hand. Your latest design for the tank also helps to appear like its no longer fused into his back too. I worry with perspective in mind if the water level is correct: horizon feels appropriate at eye level with the alien so it may help to raise that front of the water up and the back down as you'd be slightly looking upwards at it. Perhaps even completely throw that issue away by putting a wave or a slosh in there.
@ JB-CharakterDesign - Really fast and efficient work here so many props on that! In the beginning I would agree with some others in here that it was a shark head straight and true. I see you took note and changed it, but I have to say unfortunately its coming across as more of a frog now. Might be the thick lips or the eyes perched on top of the head with a short stout nose, but I just didn't see shark anymore when I first laid eyes on the new version - sorry mate.
@ Ironbyte - I really like your design! As a few others have mentioned its nice and simple with a feeling of age and functionality without getting too overly bulky! Face is amazing! It's sharky and humanoid just like is called for without going too far in either direction - kudos to you!
@ Alicen6 - I like the decision to work the lights/energy throughout the armor so that even those feel like gills or that there might just be gills beneath the surface! Perhaps just push that (our left) right shoulder in just a tad to match with the angle of your torso.
@ Vodoc - I am a fan of your breathing apparatus, but it's a shame your head is too sharky. If you change the face to be less so then I pretty much beg of you to keep that awesome tube around the gills!
@ Tchuk - You've got some really outside the box designs here and they're most definitely pushing the alien theme! The shark that you chose for reference will only serve to push that even more. While I am really enjoying the suit designs you have so far I'd say 2,3, and 4 you may have put just a bit too much lean into and they're starting to feel off balance/falling over. While 1 still has a lean it definitely feels much more stable.
@ Dary - I saw your temptation to throw in a full background there coming from EOW and it would have been pretty cool to flesh out the story, but unfortunately here its just the character, which I see you have addressed... When you started having triangular plates all over I was a little lost with your direction, but boy did that work out for you! I see even though you've got the shark features you're pushing the color palette into a different direction and it's really adding to the alien portion very nice!
@ Abrazuno - Nice initial sketch up! Solid suit design, looks functional. Great weapon choice - I would agree that definitely feels aquatic. The stretch of skin/fin on the front of the foot and ankle is a little risky - might make that portion of the leg simply read as thick rather than "fin" (yep just happened) depending how you address it. The hammerhead head on the full sketch might also be dangerously too sharky, but I see you were toying with another head concept on the second page so you might be aware...
@ Damascus Elm - Curious to see which you will go with! I like the consideration of what looks to be double heads? That would really toss up the alien aspect. At first I would feel it might lose the sharkiness in doing so, but technically it only needs the shark "features" per brief. That humongous cannon is a bit distracting and hides a lot of your character regardless of how awesome it is. So far I like the top middle suit design the best, and for weapons I like where you're going with that weapon in the far hand on bottom left with the large tank on it!
@ Foolangi - That nose mask is a great idea! Kind of feels like Bane from batman. Having just the nose covered like that is awesome for leaving the mouth open to glare its nasty teeth! Weapon and armor design are superb! Looks almost like its fairing a dry desert as of now, which really supports the need for breathing equipment. That in mind I'm curious to see where you go with colors.
@ Noun - You have a wonderful imagination and style! I enjoy seeing what you come up with for design and color every time because its usually so out of the box and playful! Heads up though top center, especially with the texture, feels really star fish, top right might be a bit buggy, and bottom right really reads dragon to me. I really hope your suit design is coming out well!
@ Smapel - I worry your head is too solid of a shark, but I'm liking you chose a beefy body type since great whites are really thick creatures compared to other sea life!
@ Yuushin7 - The heads on the top are straight shark, but the designs on page 3 in the lower right might fit the bill for the brief a little better. It is a curious thing you chose to have a water tank specifically for the dorsal fin on its back - usually that's the one part that's characteristically out of water. However, I suppose I could just be initially oblivious to that being a unique storage tank for the water supplying the suit! The suit design overall reads nicely as a sort of up-armored wet suit and it works well! In combo with the design of the breathing collar it's great - it feels like a sort of snorkel almost!
@ Barahna - I gotta say you really took the head to a new level here - It's like a whole shark shrunk down with fins and tail and everything haha! Yet you altered the face enough that you should definitely be safe for the brief - nice! Also enjoying the texture on the arms so far.
Really liking the direction this is going for everyone and I'm definitely looking forward to seeing the end results for all!!!
Not sure I'll be able to work mine too much over the next couple days - I've got to finish a sculpture for class this week. Good luck to all in the mean time!
early early wip
Thank you for the Critique Dryshave.
Damn you guys have been busy! Great work from everyone! I think you all have the right idea now. The biggest thing that will help you is not taking EVERY feature into making the head.
Yuushin7: you fell into drawing a shark head in your top images, however THESE are good. You should run with this one or something similar to it.
Abrazuno: Excellent work with the hammer head one. I dont think the fin in the back is necessary though. Otherwise, great work.
Dryshave: There you go, man! Looks great!
Ironbyte: awesome stuff! keep polishing this.
Smapel: So far I think it's a little too much shark. If you want to keep the head size, dont make it the exact shape of a shark. He looks a little cuddly!
Baranha: Yes! This is very nice! Keep at it!
Zedvector: You should post a quick sketch of the head in 3/4 view. Right now all the shapes are very basic and not readable at this point, so I'd hate to tell you that it won't work after spending a lot of time on it. Just to be safe.
3mK: For the shield, you should do something similar to what the Jackals in Halo use. Something that generates the plasma shielding. But nice design so far.
Noun: starting from the top left going right, I really like #4
foolangi: Ohhhh these are awesome. I like the 3/4 view of the guy, with the breather over his nose, that you have in the first image. Excellent!
@Dryshave: Thanks for the advice, I´ll try to change the nose some more later on, and that wave idea is pretty good, i noticed something was off with the water tank, Nice close up btw, Reminds me immediately of a shark, without actually looking like a shark, nice work
anyway, this is were I´m at with mine, I´m trying to control all the different light sources but I think I´m just making a mess of it... The text balloon is not final, I just thought of something and wanted to see how it looked
Got it! I am working in that direction right now
Tnx for feed back! Yeah, that was intended to be water tank. I'm not too happy with it thou, I'll see if I can do something else with it :/
Here's my attempt. Similar staff weapon to the goa'uld stargate types, but also reflective of a trident design since the shark / water theme. Yes, the aliens live underwater so a suit is necessary, but do sharks actually breathe through their mouths? I think their heads are fine exposed, but their gills, in my case running up her abdomen will need to be protected. Thinking a mechanical corset or something. Trying to use a classical roman pose to emphasis the military / aggressive tendancies. I'll try not to ruin this one as well!
awe damn this is one bad ass challenge, I wish I had more time to finish these things, but in case I don't ill just post these here...
seriously awesome work from everyone!