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I've been struggling a lot with perspective. I'm very slow to understand the concepts, but I'm getting there. I always make silly mistakes such as mapping out the vanishing points slightly crooked *facepalm*. I feel like once I master perspective, everything else I have to learn will be so much easier for me. Perspective is the ultimate test of patience, and soon I shall conquer!
I'm not someone that has been interested in man-made objects. I always thought they were really cool, but never paid much attention to them. After learning perspective, I really wana practice it though and who knows, maybe I will grow to love drawing man-made objects. I made a list of games that contain man-made objects that I absolutely love: Borderlands, Wipeout, Armored Core, Starcraft, Twisted Metal, Need for Speed, Ridge Racer, and Metal Slug. I tend to like junkyard vehicles the most.
Also I thought of a fun goal which is to draw 100 vehicles ! I'm going to have to do lots of research and know how these things are built and what kinds of parts they contain. Should be fun.
Here is some recent work. I measured my room and mapped it all out, so it took me a while.
It's good to see that you're starting off with perspective line drawing which is essential for almost any concept artist out there (I'm aspiring to become one too).
A few tips that I recommend (from my experience):
Keep practicing on drawing straight lines as it really helps for establishing muscle memory. Feng Zhu's video on traditional mediums taught me to draw straight lines using your elbow instead of your wrist because it constricts your movement. Also, you seem to only draw in perspective with a single brush size. You should try to practice on establishing line weight if you want to make your drawings more convincing and effective. You can check out Scott Robertson's videos on YouTube. He offers free tutorials every Friday to share his knowledge with others, for free He also has a tutorial on line weight btw so you should definitely check him out.
Don't forget to keep sketching lol. It's a good way to expand your visual library.
Thanks for the advice. I will be sure to check it out. I love his stuff.
Impatience is killing my progress. I look back at all my previous work, and I know I could have done so much better with everything. I have to learn patience. I spent these past few days reading up about vehicles, and I learned a lot about design off of that. Man-made objects just isn't my thing though, even though I think they are cool. I just don't want to invest so much time on that stuff when what I love most is creatures and the like. Also, indecisive me wants to go back to learning about anatomy, light, and color. Maybe I will just stick to a variety everyday. I learned so much about things I never thought about when I read up on vehicles that just applies to design in general. How it's a compromise, and all is a cool concept.
Some recent work. I need to make assignments for myself, so I can have good daily output. I want to start doing some quality focused studies. That is something I am REALLY lacking at.
Maybe you should just focus on learning, I mean really learning, 1 or 2 things at a time. Not a bunch of scribbled sketches or lots of random stuff thrown together just for the sake of hours or lead on paper. You will never get to where you want to be until you truly understand the following: everyone starts at the bottom, nobody just draws as good as the professionals and the masters from the beginning. Foundation foundation foundation. Like anything else in life, without a solid foundation you'll never build a solid structure/career etc etc etc. If all you do is scribbled out rough sketches then that is all you're teaching yourself to do. You're not teaching your eyes/mind/hand the details, the perspective, the finished product that you should be striving for.
I suggest you slow it way, WAY down and pick 1-2 things to truly learn/study and work towards mastering. You want to learn anatomy/light and color. Then learn anatomy! Stop with the cars and other random tid bits and pick up a Loomis/Bridgman/Hogarth/(insert anyone else here)and learn figure construction and the anatomy that goes with it. Do studies of muscles and associated structures and how to shade them, how light effects that etc etc etc. Learn anatomy before you move on. Not to say a fun little something not related is bad but that should only be once or twice a week, you goal is to focus on the task at hand.
You do this and I will guarantee that you can not do it for 10 hours a day. And that is absolutely fine bytheway!
Keep working at it but make it worth your time!
The best way to figure out your path is to look at it backwards. Where do you want to be? Think about each step that leads to the end goal and work backwards and start from there very beginning and don't move to the next goal until step/goal number 1 has been achieved/mastered.
My 2 cents
Hey Kathleen, I admire your dedication but I will point out a critical flaw. It is very important to work hard and just as important to work smart. You are at an early stage in drawing, I was at your stage not too long ago, believe me, It is brutal and you must work very hard. I would advise you to lay off the digital work until you are able to accurately see and draw using traditional mediums. You must be able to draw from life accurately and improve your recognition to see SHAPES. Every time you draw, look at the shapes and not it's context such as an eye as an eye, you must learn to accurately judge and compare shapes and translate them from life to your 2d surface. It is up to you to take on what I said but I feel you are at a stage where you want to spend 10 hours learning to see from life and books by accurately copying shapes.
Good luck with your endeavors.
Great advice. I totally agree. I'm wasting my time doodling half ass stuff. Better to do one nice page a day than to do 10 effortless. I keep stopping right before I would actually learn anything, haha. It's killing me, I've known quite a while I have to work on quality. I don't know why I can't be patient. I want to start having long term focused studies. Maybe I will stick to one thing every month. I'm always so indecisive and impatient, gotta stop that ! Well today I started a book that has drawing exercises, so I will stick to that till the end, and really try my best with all the assignments. Thanks.
I was flipping through my Drawn to Life books I got a long time ago, back when I was pursuing character animation. I remembered that I really like the baroque gesture drawing style in that book. It's very scribbly, and full of life.
I decided today to try out Nicolaides The Natural Way to Draw book. It seems to follow a similar style, and has a bunch of drawing exercises so it should be fun. There's 25 schedules in the book. Each schedule is comprised of 5 sections: A, B, C, D, E. 3 hours per section. Total of 375 hours to complete the book. Let's see how long I survive.
I did contour drawings of random things I found in my room. They would have been much better if I was drawing on actual paper instead of the tablet. It was tough trusting my first instinct for the gestures, my brain kept screaming NONONO, but surprisingly my first instinct was always right. I am enjoying this book, though sometimes torturous. It's really nice to have a schedule to follow. It allows me to focus on the task, and only the task.
I completed Schedule 1 today. My wrist is starting to get carpal tunnel which means I'm probably not going to try and complete a whole schedule again tomorrow, haha. I tried my best. I really want to make it a point to try my best with everything I do from now on. Everything I've been doing in the past has been a pile of yuck yuck. Time to step up my game !
Last edited by Kathleen Hang; November 18th, 2013 at 05:59 AM.
Anger drawings, I had and still have them too. Like *lines on the paper, lines on the paper, hole in the paper*.
Those shaky lines look scary, I tried a different software other than photoshop for my lines. Manga Studios is pretty ok, reacts the way I want to with my intuos3... Maybe that's an idea.
Yup, tablet is so slippery !
I've going to limit myself to Nicolaides Natural Way to Draw & Loomis Drawing Heads and Hands. I shall master them before moving on.
- finished Nicolaides sections A & B of schedule 2
- skull study and memory drawing
- tried some traditional
Contour drawing is really helping me with what I struggle with most, patience. I enjoy drawing in pen. The pain of screwing something up, and not being able to fix it is keeping me sharp, making me learn from my mistakes instead of being a chicken head. I'm starting to get the hang of doing actual hard work every day. There's still plenty of room for improvement. I hope to do even more hard work tomorrow.
- completed section C & D of Nicolaides schedule 2
- imagination page
- pen portraits
Suffering big time from bad ergonomics! Had to stop working early. Sadface. I hope it is cured by tomorrow. Also, I will start painting again. I got an iPad a few months ago with the intention to paint outside with it, but never got around to doing that. I want to practice painting starting tomorrow, and when I get decent, I will paint something random outside everyday so I can get some fresh air and expand that visual library.
- completed Nicolaides 2e & 3a
- imagination page
- pen portrait
- imagination scene
- finished Nicolaides 3b & 3c
- imagination page (some ideas from book I'm reading called Under the Dome)
Tried to paint with 100% opacity. Took me so long to finish the painting, but I sure did learn a lot. I want to practice my line drawing skill tomorrow. Painting is so fun though !
Hi Kathleen! Advice if you don't know already ( something that helped me draw a bit more fluid lines ). Draw with your whole arm, and not just your wrist. The vast majority of my brushstrokes or lines come from my shoulder, barely anything from my wrist. Except from very small details.
Keep going! And I'll see you when we are both pro's ^^.
"A man chooses. A slave obeys."
Oh ya, that is something I really got to work on.
- finished Nicolaides section 3d
- imagination stuff
- reference stuff
- more gestures
Yesterday's work. I AM GUILTY OF IMPATIENCE !!!! It was because I couldn't get the perspective right and when I was drawing traditionally, I couldn't get all the values I wanted, and being impatient while trying to solve problems just results in chickenhead doodles. I must stop this impatience !! Today I will try not to judge my work, and just try my best with everything. Not let the struggle get the best of me.
- finished Nicolaides 3e
- finished reading Under the Dome book yesterday, awesome book
- started reading Game of Thrones book 2 today
- imagination stuff
- reference study
I'm not doing enough studies. Starting tomorrow, I want to start doing hardcore studying ! I want to get a lot of anatomical studies done everyday.
Ya you are so right. I never read a book before until I started pursuing concept art. When I tried to draw a creative pig (lol), my mind was a black hole. Oh so terrible it was. Not a single idea. Since then, I decided to read a chapter of a book everyday and it's crazy how fast time goes by. I've finished 7 books so far doing that. Compared to everything else I've learned, the books taught me the most. I shall never stop reading a book every day !
books read so far:
History of Western Art
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep
Game of Throne 1
Ready Player One
Under the Dome
Game of Thrones 2 (just started)
- imagination side
- study side
- finished Nicolaides 4a
Time flies by so fast. I thought I would have done much more work than this. I spent the day really trying to memorize the planes of the head. I got a lot better at drawing heads in perspective. Also couldn't resist trying to be creative again.
Some recent work. I want to do more studies everyday. Time goes by so fast. Maybe I daydream too much.
Trying to get more work done and be more patient next time
- finished Nicolaides 4e
- anatomy study
I didn't work much yesterday. I am happy with my anatomy studies though. I tried my best with those, and it was hard since I struggle with patience. I don't like the imagination/apply side though. That side was rushed and I didn't give myself the time to explore creativity so all I can say is YUCK !!!! I kinda tried to make myself my own version of a Nicolaides schedule, so everyday I know what to do.
Today, I am going to make it a point to do a lot more studies and make sure everything I do is my best !
Keep up the good work!
Hi there! You have nice goals.
I've got a similar one too, and same timeframe!~
..unfortunately not being able to spend 10 hours ( or anywhere even close) devoted to drawing a day.D:
I like that you're taking up other people's advice! I agree with theirs. Also I'd say...PUSH EVEN MORE PATIENCE OUT OF YAHHHH!
Hahah I have the same troubles as you also. I'm very impatient. Argh it's very difficult indeed
Anyways Keep it up and can't wait to see more :3
Thanks guys. Yup impatience is a killa. Seeing my friend learn so fast from patience has really helped me slow down though. He will learn something in a week while I am being a fly working my butt off, hitting the same wall over and over and over, haha. I agree, MORE PATIENCE REQUIRED.
My sloppy Nicolaides inspired schedule has proven quite useful today. Got more work done. Also getting the hang of rhythm. I think I've gotten the hang of rhythm for quite some time, but my impatience never let me really utilize it. I also feel like I can be really creative if I just give myself the time to be. I usually don't make it a point to set time away for creativity so I end up spending too little time on creativity and do something really lame.
- completed Nicolaides 5a
- study page
- apply/imagination pages
It's a new month already?! Well, my December goal will be patience! I want to focus on line confidence and having a constructive/perspective approach to learning anatomy as opposed to the sighting way which I spend all day cutting chunks off the head to get it right. I want to make all my work be the best I can and not give up on things when it gets hard.
- completed Nicolaides 5b and 5c
- some imagination and studies
I didn't do much today. I felt bored of doing heads. At the same time, I didn't want to move on to something else without getting to a decent level with heads, so I was just wasting the day doing sloppy stuff and not much. Tomorrow I will have assignments for myself so I can get decent amount of work done everyday.
- finished Nicolaides 5d
- imagination and head studies
Some recent work. This is just warm up stuff. I've been working on some perspective projects and they are taking me awhile to complete. Also I got sucked into the black friday/cyber week deals stuff ! so that is why I haven't been doing much work lately, but I got a bunch of stuff I really needed like ergonomic chair, finally good bye woody chair !
- finished Nicolaides 7a, 7b
- imagination stuff
- Loomis figure studies
- playing with abstract thinking
- tried making a werewolf with no knowledge/laziness to research
Lately I've been wanting to do a lot of things again. I want to study figures, light, and apply myself more. I got a big urge to do it all ! Though I really need to pick something and focus.. ahhh can't decide. I think I should just stick to studying figures.
Kath, I was wondering what those last drawings are about?
Anyway, pick something to study. Whatever you're the weakest at is probably the best, but other things will do too. Just don't get stuck in the "efficient study" mode, just get into the habit of doing those studies regardless of what these studies are. Later you can make them efficient as you like. More defined drawings please!
Thanks 99. Great to know I am improving. Sometimes I feel crazy like every gesture page is turning out the same, haha. I'm always striving to get more sense of weight and movement. I'm using posemaniacs.
Thanks for the reminder, Kerah. I was starting to fall down the impatient hole again. I try so hard to be patient and when I think about it, it feels easy but I always somehow slip back to being impatient, ahhh. Must be the greedy ambition. Such an evil thing. The last drawings was me trying to make a werewolf, and just brainstorming.. cringe. I want to make cool stuff of my own. Doing studies all the time is driving me crazy.
- finished Nicolaides 7c
- imagination stuff
- Loomis studies.
I finished reading chapter 1 of Loomis figure drawing book. Now I am going to practice memorizing proportions and making mannekins in perspective and when I get decent with that, I will move onto chapter 2: anatomy !