rem92 thanks for the honest feedback and you are right I do need to work a lot on my forms, my rendering look very flat at the mo slow process at the mo.
PerfectGet thanks for dropping by again and n worries aways happy to give you a bit of feed back. Yeah been working hard on faces proportions placement ect. I think starting to break things down into shapes made it al less scary and easier to be more accurate. Vilppu has really helped me with that.
In light of my flat rendering did some sphere studies today from ref, prob not the best method. This is the best o the bunch tried to render with the form and capture the form a bit better. Not too impressed.
Then another long study this time of a pepper still need to work on separating my values a bit better but sometimes get a bit lost i the process and end up not being able to really capture the value transitions well.
Quick sphere study again trying to concentrate on the form of the sphere. Also used much darker pencils to help with values.
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I feel you have a very heavy hand... What I mena by this is that most lines are really dark and you probably are drawing grabbing your pencil as if you were writing text/numbers. Try loosening up a little more, try drawing from the shoulder (leaving wrist and fingers completely still). Also, get to know the human body, how to draw the head etc. Work with both knowledge and imagination, no matter how much talen you have, it wont do without knowledge. Keep it up!
BEHOLD. You're about to witness us...
Really nice still lifes and gestures. One thing that might help your imagination stuff is to start it like it was a gesture then build upon it. Right now they seem a little stiff. Other then that keep going =)
kungfoowiz: cheers man you too your def making good progress.
DavesWarminsides: LOL classic name. I can be heavy handed you should see my foot on car pedals lol, def trying to improve on this a lot and have modified my grip a bit from the pen grip but still use it for detail work. Agree with you about learning the human body, basically I need to get my ass to life drawing and stop putting it off and trying to make do with photos and books.
Wignal: def agree about the stiffness in my poses which is why I am trying to get do more gesture drawing. Basically struggle with coming up with my own poses and looking for correct photo ref alway seems to take so long and I end up copying. So I guess the standing up right it my generic go to pose but def trying to get away from it.
Been drawing a lot of shit looking stuff last few days almost feels like I have gone backwards. Did some posmaniac gestures, not sure i like that site the fact the figures are always upside down or never the right way up is a bit off putting. Been doing some figure master studies trying to work on proportions ect.
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Just some random pages from my sketchbook
Quick self portrait before bed well actually over an hours worth, fairly happy a big improvement on the self portraits I was doing back in June so something is working.
another self portrait.
Thought I would start doing some timed face studies to force myself to simplify as I always end up doing long studies. Want to see how much likeness I can capture in a short amount of time. These two were done timed at ten mins each not the greatest.
Some quick Boris Vallejo faces studies between work today.
Some figure studies from quickposes try to break down into shapes before adding the contour not gone so well.
More figures from quickposes. These are taking me about 20-30 mins each and they are bad not sure if its normal to be this slow when starting out.
Your figure sketches have really developed from the first ones! It's cool to see the learning curve from page 1 to page 5.
Should I pick up one point to focus more, I'd say it's the face studies. At the moment they look a bit more comic book style than realistic,
though them showed next to the classical pose studies probably brings up the contrast of these two studies. Anyways, you definitely
haven't gone backwards, no worries of that.
I noticed that most of your studies are done with sharp pencil (?) and I'd love to see what you could get done with
other mediums, for example pastels or watercolours. For myself, trying out different mediums have always brought up
new ways of looking things and I've learned a lot of it.
Mindinart glad you are seeing development, feed back like that is definitely very motivational. I am actaully trying to simplify faces hence maybe the cartoony style as I dont really want to go for a phopto realistic style and I can get hung up on too much detail.
This is my first ever oil painting just an imaginary sphere study really just wanted to see how oil painting felt. Be fun also to look back in time to come and hopefully see the progress in my painting
Another quickposes figure study
Nice improvement on the self-portraits. One thing I noticed about the faces you are drawing is that the features such as the eyes seem very flat. Try to imagine them wrapping around the surface of the face to give them a better three dimensional feel.
Also don't be down on your figures man! The ones on this page look a lot more accurate than the previous two pages so just keep going.
You can definitely see the improvement from the first page. So just keep working and don't be so hard on yourself. The gesture drawings are great to get proportions and poses down. Maybe try more figures and portraits done in a full value scale?
Thanks for the feed back and crits. I do need to stop being over critical its not very productive. Interesting what you say about facial features Perfectget its not something iv notice but see where you are coming from. I also agree that I do need to do some fully rendered figures just trying to improve my accuracy and proportions and that seems to be taking forever as it is.
Some more female figure studies.
I can already see a big improvement in your SB, those studies have really come along well !
anivy thanks for the words of encouragement gives me a boost. Ps do you have a sketchbook would be good to your work give you some feed back ect and return the favour.
Just more figure studies again.
Hi there and thanks for the SB visit!
I thought I would come over amd peruse yours as you were kind enough to look through mine.
You are heading in the right direction as far as I can tell, I can see that your observational skills are improving with use, But you really need to spend more time studying the source before putting pen to paper.
Some of the anatomy you have in here is a little too fat, thin, long or short in places. I recognise the same in my work too and in my case it stems from the desire to get it down on paper as quick as I can to see how it looks.
The other thing I would suggest is that you plan the images a bit more and tell some stories with it, the story aspect makes you concentrate on gesture more and trying to sell the action, look at the works of the late and sadly missed "Frank Frazetta" for inspiration.
all the best with the work , and I will drop by again soon to see how youare doing, have fun!
A great kind hearted lumbering bullock
http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=209918 = my Sketchbook
Rustveld cheers for stopping by glad you can see the improvments,
Lightship69 I agree i do need to work on my accuracy and propeortions, trying to learn some measurment technquies by sometimes feel that makes it all harder not used to that kind of approach and not really sure whjat I amdoing, but know its whats needed so thanks for pointing out the flaws.
Thought I would do some male nude studies for a change.
It seems your drawing these poses mostly by using a contour approach. I'm wondering if learning gesture and construction would help too? Just a suggestion. Following with interest.
Leonor thanks or the feedback i am not sure how to apply construction really seems a bit confusing, i try and block in the figure first with shapes then add contour and erase all other construction lines ect, maybe you mean add in more anatomical details and landmarks, i agree that would be useful.
My first real attempt at oil painting am still working on it, feeling festive so chose a Christmas Bauble.
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calling this finished
Ni-ni-nice man. That last makes me feel all christmas n shit. ^^
I really think some construction could make your figures stronger. Some gesture is always nice as well!
For construction i recommend Gottfried Bammes. As for gesture, Glenn Vilppu is the best, imo. (:
Now just keep it up! (y)
Wow wow, figure drawings are starting to look very crisp! Those are hard, but you've gotten a lot better.