yea but hes like a legendary artist lol i get ya i will try and speed up!
yea but hes like a legendary artist lol i get ya i will try and speed up!
god that painting is amazing. that is some sweet virgin bride. I believe she is mine so please no staring.
anyways i think im gonna stop here for the ionian thing and i did a quick hour for the game of thrones one.
should i move onto edges now?
I would love to get involved in some of this tutoring.
Working from scratch to get a grasp on the fundamentals. I am mainly using Pencil/Paper at the moment, But have access to photoshop and a wacom tablet so working with that would be great.
I know I don't have much variety in my sketchbook at the moment, but any support would be great.
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Please check out my SKETCHBOOK
All Crits and advice welcome.
dude thanks for the info great stuff, though would disagree with that guy and the pic. from learning from that huevaluechroma site, the terminator (the halftones to shadow) area should be at a right angle to the light source.
but this information is a goldmine!!! not only does what u say all make sense, but if u really think about it, it is just life! but u would never think about it lol when doing a painting....
Ive been making some of my own brushes trying to get some nice things, wow ps is like RIDICULOUSLY powerful! this thing has brush emulators (cs12)..... its almost at painter's level, well will be beyond when the new version is out.
anyways thanks for the info, im gonna play with these brushes for a bit, any idea on how to smudge, with big files it takes too long for big smudges, but will little smudges work?
What do you do?
my cpu is pretty good, but i dunno the only reason i go high is because i got to print out high quality work for my portfolio . Smudging always goes slow for me
Computers make me sick. (my job is techsupport)
what size brush would u use for some smudging, if u were on say an a3 size sheet.
anyways i will get cracking on those edges studies soon!
cool well ill try 150 dpi didnt realise that
anyway here some brushes stuff
sure will do...
Edit: so love the video, didnt realise u could use other brushes to smudge, thats cool. i suppose u can use em to blur and dodge and stuff as well. cool thumbnail, very graphic style.
will get back to it.
Last edited by Siphonophores; May 25th, 2012 at 06:56 PM.
haha yea getting better, i mite keep doing some 1hr value studies just for practice u know. neways onto edges and this will be interesting! cant wait
how long should we take on the edges studies?
Awesome thread, I've read through a lot of pages and I have to say that you really give some good advice Sean. Was wondering if you would mind if I join in? Seems like you're covering all the topics I need to focus on and I desperately need help from some peers. I tend to be pretty introverted when it comes to art, hah.
Your latest exercise as well as the 5 (6?) master studies that you posted a while back are jumping out at me.
Thanks for letting me join the fun! I will try to get those done as soon as possible.
so here is the edge study 1 at 7 hours, not gonna take this any further due to time frame.
Edges are really hard.... I spent two hours on the values alone and then got stuck in and, i feel like the background at least was really starting to come along nicely.
with time i think this could have been improved, now onto the next one and will definetly move quicker this time around. what a beautiful painting/lady those eyes are killer.
Sargent is going on my watchlist.
found the charcoal smear brush! this is a nice one.
(sean, whats your opinion on color value studies? worthwhile? or worthless? or both?)
Here's a value study I've been working on. I'm at the (approx) 2 hour mark and I
am already stuck. Feeling pretty bad too, because you said we should spend 2
hrs on it and I'm already there and not even close to completion.
Any advice/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I totally thought the high
key value study would be the easiest of them all but boy oh boy was I wrong!
I've always sucked at adding detail to paintings, and this exercise is making
that glaringly obvious.
On a more positive note, I do feel like I've learned a bit while working on this.
I am now realizing that I def. need to do more master studies in the future, lol.
Last edited by Viconia; May 31st, 2012 at 12:18 AM.
I am for the most part extremely angry that it took you two hours to get it looking that good! excellent job, the only thing i could add is that for value studies sean recommended about an 1hr max. if u have a look above in the thread you will see my effort which took 12HRS GRRRRRRRR.
Anyways heres edges study 1 and im very proud of this one, although i can definetly see it needs some work, some values are off some edges are off but overall i think it is NICE like that.
Edit: Oh god thats too big. will resize.
Edit2: 3hr study and stopped
Last edited by Siphonophores; May 30th, 2012 at 05:24 PM.
cool sure. im on holiday for a week next week so no regular updates i will be thinking about art in my head though haha ill get the rest done either before or when i get back.
Care - Aw, he said 1 hour? I must have been looking at a different post when I thought it
was 2 hrs. Honestly, your study is the one that makes me feel so crap about mine because
you were able to achieve so much detail in it. I'm also pretty jealous that you have the patience
to work on a pic for that long. Patience is one of those things that I am severely lacking.
Also, I just wanted to say that I really like your latest study! Seems like you are now making a
much more conscious effort to vary your edges and I am quite impressed with the outcome.
Sean - Just looked at post #376 and I will approach the other pics with that technique. I didn't
really zoom out when I worked on the first one. Probably gonna spend another 30 mins or so
on it just to make it look a little more "finished". Thanks for the encouragement.
Sean had a look at the video,
the pic was cropped because when i painted it i left out the little bit out of the navigator at the bottom lol.
The values were off because i didnt have enough time to get em nailed correctly
Thanks for the feedback much appreciated. gonna give the next one a shot when i come back.
Finished the value key pictures. Actually had all of them (except for half of the last one) done last night but I couldn't post because my internet was down.
Working zoomed out at like 20-ish % helped a lot. The last 5 went MUCH faster than the first one.
Jesus they are good! id really like to see them next to the actual pics to see how they fare up value wise
Thanks Care. Here they are all together, mine on left and orig on right.
Every time I look at the last one I just want to laugh because his face looks so derpy. Lmao.
Thanks for the positive feedback, Sean. Yeah you are right, I didn't add in some of those blacks. Whoops!
I find that I tend to avoid blacks because people are always saying stuff like, "There are no blacks in RL so you should
avoid painting them!" Maybe I've turned it into a bad habit though, heh.
Not really sure how to explain what derpy means, but urban dictionary has a pretty good definition:
Awkward or embarrassing, especially pertaining to a person.
Think I might attempt more than one of those pics for the edge exericise. Maybe these three, if I have the time.
Will definitely be doing the Frazetta one, because that painting is just awesome!
1, 2, 3
edit: actually might even try this one too (saw it at the top of page 3). Lots of great edges there.
Last edited by Viconia; June 1st, 2012 at 08:48 AM.
Ahhh okay I gotcha. Didn't notice you wrote assignment 2 on top of the Frazetta one.
Okay so how about I do this one first?
Then I can move on to the other master paintings followed by (MAYBE) doing the Frazetta pic as a flipping exercise as it was intended.
Hope that sounds a little better.
those brush strokes are l337! are u using opacity or just laying them on by hue? tell u what that roman soldier one is hard...
I would have to say that I almost never use any opacity other than 100% when I am painting. Just a personal
preference; I know a lot of people do like to use that setting.
Not sure exactly what you mean by "laying them on by hue" as hue is a term that is used exclusively with color.
What I can say is that I tend to lay my brush strokes over each other until I start getting something that looks right.
Hope that answers your question.
I bet that roman soldier is tough. I can already see that I am going to be crying with the patterns on his shield and armor.
Last edited by Viconia; June 1st, 2012 at 10:48 AM.
Sorry about the double post, but here I am about 2 hours into the edge study.
Was wondering if anyone has some advice for me. Feeling stuck again... and well idk....
Feels like something is off, and also I am deeply regretting choosing that pic because I really don't want to paint
the designs on his shield and armor. Gah!
stunned again.... great work! im ashamed to post mine now... The forms are well defined. try a tread (tire tread) brush for the chainmail mite help?
One thing i noticed also, in ur sketchbook also is the values are slightly off. they are a bit lighter maybe this is a monitor problem?
Last edited by Siphonophores; June 1st, 2012 at 02:34 PM.
Care - Thanks! Could be my monitor, as it is pretty bright. I do have a pretty light hand though, so I've found that
I tend to have some difficulty making my pictures dark. ;P
Think I am done with this. I am gonna lose it if I have to keep looking at this thing.
Sean - Thanks for the input! Yeah I did actually use a chain sort of brush for the mail but honestly I think the problem is
that I am really bad at using special/texture brushes and most of the time when I do it just looks like a muddy mess. Sort of what
happened in the pic I just posted, lol. Guess I will just have to keep practicing.
You are right about it being a bit too dark. It was slightly lighter but then I did a level adjustment and made it darker out of paranoia.
Looking back at my lighter original version, I would have to say that it is still too dark though, haha.
Not sure what I'm gonna do next. Hm. Maybe this one?
Sure, if you'd like haha.
Here are a few pics that I thought would be good candidates for edge practice (well at least in my opinion, haha)
Hope you don't mind me posting these.
Curious as to what you are going to post.
so here it is at 3 hours.
this went v well i thought, used some texture and really got into it. unfortunately couldnt finish but i dunno this is usually the case!