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I've recently rediscovered my weaknesses in utilizing both composition and story telling elements in my works. I've searched throughout the forums and have found some useful information on the subject matter, but I can only vaguely understand what I'm reading more than half of the time (except I'd like to say I can fully grasp the rule of thirds, but I may be wrong about that.)
So here I am making a new thread to ask anyone that would be generous enough to explain,show off a tutorial, or give me site so I can comprehend both composition and story telling elements more clearly. Also I would like some information about tangents ( I know it occurs when objects are so close together that they're basically 'kissing' one another thus making the piece seem flat, but does this also apply to elements which goes off the borders of the piece?) I really want to improve on my weaknesses and thank you to everyone who are willing to offer their help.
The composition video by Jason Manley is very informative, check that out: Lecture on composition It´s well worth the money!
Here are some nice tips on landscape composition: Landscape comp.
And lastly, a very nice post by James Gurney on tangencies:Tangencies Click on "composition" under "blog index" to the left and you´ll get more posts on that. Hope this helps.
Awesome links! Have bookmarked this thread.
You´re welcome guys, glad to help!
I actually have these two links bookmarked too but I haven´t read them through. There seems to be a lot of good information there.
Composition part 1
Composition part 2
And I forgot to add the link to free online art books:
Free art books online. There is one book posted on composition in that thread but I guess there are more books in the archive.
That should keep you busy for a while
Yeah, The Gurney Jurney blog is awesome! There is so much information there about art and he updates regularly. Another awesome blog I just recently discovered is Stapleton Kearns blog. Check under "design". There is so much information on the net that it sometimes gets overwhelming, haha, I guess we are information spoiled nowadays
I think that is all I have on composition for now
That blog was a great help also, really explained that pyramid theory for me.
I also have another question for everyone and rather than make a new topic I'd thought I'd share here since it does pertain to composition: I tend to over render things a lot (I know a very novice thing to do), and as a byproduct on this I tend to have a poor focal point and the piece just comes out flat. So the question is how exactly does one stay loose without looking sloppy? Is it just implying forms of a distance or showing how light interacts with desaturated objects? Some input would be really appreciated some exercises would be cool also.
I'm bothered by these things too time to time.
Here is my humble approach to composition by ornament and a bit naive look at storytelling.
What I've got so far, you got to use circles, squares, triangles, points, lines and their combination to build a picture. It's hard to see them in more realistic pictures at first but once you see, it flows like music
Personally, I fight tangents by copying first 6 pages of "celtic ornaments" ("кельтские орнаменты Ивановская" cyrillic ), while got nothing else to do. It helps with line, proportions, and since ornaments are sensitive to tangents you automatically start to watch over them.
One of the helpful things i found on overrendering and contrast control is value compression by Jason Maronto.
Last edited by c0ffee; May 13th, 2010 at 02:44 AM.
One exercise I used to stop me over rendering was counting brush marks. Here is what you do
Make a painting the normal way you always do, then pick an arbitrary number of marks you know is less than what you used and try to paint the painting again counting the marks What happens after a few of these is you start to apply judgment to your marks, some can be ignored, some need to be there. I found I could get away with half the marks I was making without loss of quality.