I know this is an art forum but feel this is an important issue that people need to be aware of. This information is sourced from http://blackgenocide.org where you can find out more.
The issue of abortion goes beyond a moral debate but has extreme health risks and hugely increases risks of cancer, mainly breast and cervical.
The unnatural process of abortion upsets the human bodies hormonal balance and the body does not realise the baby has been removed. Abortion clinics are also targeted to specific locations where there are the people groups of their rascist intentions, eugenics.
Sourced from blackgenocide.org:
Planned Parenthood is the largest abortion provider in America. 78% of their clinics are in minority communities. Blacks make up 12% of the population, but 35% of the abortions in America. Are we being targeted? Isn't that genocide? We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population. If the current trend continues, by 2038 the black vote will be insignificant. Did you know that the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, was a devout racist who created the Negro Project designed to sterilize unknowing black women and others she deemed as undesirables of society? The founder of Planned Parenthood said, "Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated." Is her vision being fulfilled today?
more info at http://blackgenocide.org/planned.html
This is just the tip of the iceberg...
Last edited by Elwell; March 1st, 2010 at 10:30 PM. Reason: added Politics tag
I'm afraid you just stepped on a land mine. Good luck with this one. I personally thank planned parenthood for all the free condoms that got me through high school. One girlfriend I had got knocked up with the next guy she shacked up with. I had to thank my lucky condoms because I would have had to raise a child with that crazy ho.
Last edited by Raoul Duke; March 1st, 2010 at 07:37 PM.
Euthanasia and abortion are really one of those 'case by case' issues. It is nearly impossible to generalize without 'short-changing' alot of people.
Eugenics is a fundamentally callous idea in its theory. In practice it is brutally inhumane.
I find that really difficult to believe. Unless the author is talking about percentage of the population, and going all the way back to when Africans were being abused by the slave trade.We are the only minority in America that is on the decline in population
Last edited by karma militia; March 1st, 2010 at 08:13 PM.
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How is it genocide if it's voluntary?
Yes abortion has extreme health risks. The issue is not so much about anti-choice. It's that those who have to make the big decision aren't provided with the full awareness of the major health risks associated with abortion, and also the fact that many people would be willing to adopt the child rather than see it aborted.
Marketing is about targeting a certain demographic, so it is genocide in the sense that the majority of abortion clinics are strategically located in areas of concentrations of minority groups.
There is much more information out there and links can be found in the first post if this topic interests you. I was made aware of this issue today so I'm sure there's alot more info out there for you guys to dig up.
Ok, can't bite my tongue.
1. I would like to see the proof that it increases the risk of cancers and the like. A link to an extremist viewpoint, I don't find to be valid.
2. The body does realize the baby has been removed. So again, I'd like to see proof of how it would not realize it. When the fetus has been removed, the hormones apparently regulate within a week. There are miscarriages all the time in early term pregnancy, so does the body not know the miscarriages happen either?
3. Does it not occur to you that the reason they are in the areas is because of demand for such services in those areas? It's the whole supply and demand thing. If there is a need it needs to be fulfilled. I'm not going to state reasons why there would be a need in those areas, but I'm sure if you looked it up you could find some. And I'd also be interested in seeing proof that 78% of all oftheir clinics are in "minority areas". What if they are in poorer areas, is that like them trying to get rid of the poor?
I'm not saying I'm for or against abortion. But citing a single source, and that source being an extremist viewpoint is not cool. People should be given the choice. It's their bodies, not yours. And abortion is not mandatory. So if they are voluntarily going and getting abortions how is this eugenics? How is it genocide? If they were forcibly sterilized, that would be different. But they are not being sterilized and they are not being forced to get abortions.
I found this link had some good information on the risks
Although the mothers are not being sterilised, abortion does damage the reproductive organs, so would damage future pregnancy.
The body is aware of natural miscarriage, because it's natural. In the case of unnatural miscarriage, abortion, The body takes a relatively long time to realise and make the appropriate hormonal changes to take effect.
Education and social work would need to be addressed more so than abortion clinics in those areas.
Last edited by Cam Sykes; March 1st, 2010 at 08:38 PM.
hey buddy, if you want to make a point and are doing it through citing sources, then you might want to actually find reputable sources so you're not laughed at.
It would be like me arguing that whites are the superior race and then citing the KKK website as my source.
Ok, first rule. The youtube, its not science.
second, the cancer thing is inconclusive, there nothing close to a scientific concensus on it.
illegal abortions are dangerous, legal abortions are not. Finding actual numbers on this is not rocket science. Abortions do not qualify to "extreme health risks" by a longshot. In fact, the whole argument is ironic since its the illegal abortions that are a health risk, especially in developing countries, where people are, you guessed it, often of a darker complexion. Those are your two options, legal, or illegal. Contrary to what antichoicers like to believe, the choice isnt abortions or no abortions. its legal, or illegal abortions.
Again though, playing the race card and calling racism on people who are pro choice? Brilliant tactic, especially in the US. Might bite them in the ass eventually.
I'm not saying there shouldn't be a focus on education and social work in poorer areas. But that really has nothing to do with this.. You were saying there is a genocide going on. Which is patently untrue.
seeing as there are currently a rather substancial number of children waiting to be adopted in the US, how does that work? I guess there are a number of people who "would like to see it adopted rather than aborted" but I dont buy the "willing to adopt rather than see it aborted" for a second. I think there are people who like to act all pious in theory, but the idea that these kids would be readily adopted if they wernt aborted is laughable.
If that were the case You wouldnt see children waiting for adoptions now, let alone what the system would look like if all the african american women who now choose to have abortions suddently started all delivering their newborn to be adopted.
A simple quick look at abortion rates compared to adoption rates (children given up for adoption as well as women/couples applying to adopt) shows this argument to be a complete fantasy solution.
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Yeah, you pretty much got us. Planned Parenthood is part of a super duper secret Aryan conspiracy to remove the Negro race from the world for embarrassing our dear Fuhrer via Jesse Owens.
If you think this is scary, just wait until you find out what we did with the Jews. Yes, that's right, the Jews. Think about it, how often do you see one of those around anymore?
Oh, and you will find out what happened to them. We call your black slums "ghettos" for a reason you know.
You're doing better than me, turns out I'm 1/16th Native American so that's probably gassing grounds right there.
But hey, it's only 1/16th and I've got a German last name to boot. Maybe I can slide under the radar for a while? Heck, if I kiss enough ass maybe I can be some Aryan's lapdog!
I don't understand the anti-choicers.
Why do they care about my hypothetical children? Once that kid is out of the womb, fuck em, dregs of society, no one wants to adopt or pay welfare, why should I care, blah blah blah
I am a lady on my period. My egg had the potential of growing into a human fetus and yet my egg and all the nourishment for the child that never was is being neatly collected by my pads. Every period is a child that never was. So why do I not see them crying over this?
In all seriousness though, I've never understood this myself. And it REALLY bothers me when other people try to tell me what to do with my body. I'll get up in arms about it, regardless of whether the right is exercised or not. it's my body, not theirs.
Wrong place to bring out the racially-paranoid pseudoscience...
This kind of bullshit information, which is exactly what you are spreading, is causing more damage than abortions ever have, could or will.
Women have every right to have control over their bodies/lives, whatever is "natural" according to whoeverthefuck is irrelevant. Guess what, humans haven't done anything "natural" for a while, and if you were to live a "natural" life, you'd live to 30 before the lack of modern medicine caught up to you and made you into prime soil for someone smart enough to grow some food for themselves.
Evolution has given us the opportunity to not breed on instinct, but instead use our ability of rational thinking to go "hey, I'm in no position to raise a child right now" and be able to not bring a child into this world that you are not physically, mentally or financially ready for.
Wake up and smell the fact that we are living in 2010...
i think their argument is mostly with fertilised eggs, and even then its the hardliners that draw the line at fertilisation. Those people are rather inconcistent though since they dont push for proper burials of all the pads of sexually active women, just in case. (not all fertilised eggs make it kids, look to george carlin for a proper rant on that subject.)
this particular subject is not a good place to look for consistency overall. Its akin to looking for beauty in the poetry of vogons.
Id try harder to not be sarcastic, but this thread opened with a tinfoil hat conspiracy featured on youtube, its hard not to poke fun at it, with a stick.
Slavery ended hundreds of years ago, the president is black, all you see in on MTV, ESPN and various other shows is african americans and their culture being force fed to us and our children and still there is someone out to get them? Poor them?
It never fucking ends...........
Margaret Sanger was an important and complicated woman.
There are valid moral and ethical arguments against abortion. This is not one of them.
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