Heres the story, my friend knows this guy who is an artist and had him draw him these two sketches in ink to be tattoed on him. He wants to know if the anatomy and compistion is all good, because both of us draw ourselves but aren't pros.
This guy claims to be drawing since hes six years old, and is 24.
I myself am pretty impressed by them as he started right off in ink with a regular writing pen.
I would say no to either of them. For one thing, it doesn't make any sense at all to have something cropped as a tattoo, since your skin doesn't have a frame to crop it with. You need the full design.
The death one doesn't really have good anatomy in the hands, and the heavily stylized skull seems to be floating in front of the hood while there's something else inside it. It also doesn't look like he's actually moving, so it comes off very static. The scythe also gets flattened out because it's not drawn in perspective. However, it's still the better of the two.
The warrior is very awkward looking, and again very static. Also very flat, there's little indication that there are three dimensional forms that make up the figure. No foreshortening to speak of, and extremely squat anatomy (four heads tall). The head is much more cartoony than the figure, which of course doesn't work.
For rough sketches in ballpoint, they're pretty decent. But they're not at a quality where I'd commit them permanently on someone's skin. Maybe take the general idea and develop it from there, with more of an eye toward the underlying structure of the figures?
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It's really not a good idea to have someone who isn't a tattoo artist draw your art. Having them in hand to show said tattoo artist what you had in mind is fine, but these are definitely not adequate for ink.
There was some great info posted by resonanteye in another thread that you might find helpful, and it's said better than I could: http://conceptart.org/forums/showpos...48&postcount=2
And for ease I'll quote it as well:
I've moved this to Art Discussion, since you should only post your own work in the Critique Center.
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Someone who would probably disagree is Richard Cohen, author of this article, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072102358.html but what does he know?
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First of all, I would rate these images as being on par with the work of the typical 7th or 8th grade art student. They are far from professional or talented.
Second, you should generally ignore people who try to boost their own credibility by claiming to have been drawing from a young age. The fact is, all children typically begin to draw on their own by the age of 2 and by kindergarten they are drawing on a regular basis in school. They draw, but that in no way implies that they draw well.
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See if you can enjoy it every time you look at the design. If not, it's probably not a good idea to put it on your skin.
Tattoo artists know what works and doesn't work on a body, you can give them an initial design as inspiration and have them draw the actual tattoo.
If you want to make your own tattoo designs understand that you not only have to draw decent, but you also have to learn how a design and the body relate to each other. The body is not a flat piece of paper and many parts even look different depending on flexed or released muscles.
On the two pics, I'd say the first offers some inspiration for a better drawing.
The second one does not give me any inspiration at all, I would never go for such a design.
The OP must be some sort of masochist...
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This thread is a great example of how often honesty takes a back seat to being nice and polite. As soon as people find out the artist isn't actually present - "That looks like it was done by a 6th grader!" But if someone actually posted it up in a sketchbook or in the critique section as their own, as does happen pretty often, "Looking good man, keep it up!" Funny, that.
My view on the tattoo designs? No, they are not appropriate for skin. They do not look professional, or show any semblance of something I may want in a tattoo other than "black ink" being involved. I'm not entirely sure how serious the artist in question is about their artwork, if it's just a hobby that takes a backseat to a majority of other things, or if it's something they're real serious about pursuing. But if they intend on pursuing it as a career, they should start up some work here themselves and possibly find a mentor in the appropriate section for some critique and help. Plenty would be willing to give it.
They are AWESOME! get them blown up huge and put it em on your back... or chest Please post pictures after its done.
...no really they are pretty bad.
Even if a good tatoo artists makes proper versions of these, the subject matter is f'n lame. A grim reaper? Seriously? He wouldn't be my friend anymore if he got that on him.
Tattoos are for life. Think of yourself, seventy years from now with a grim reaper tattoo. You'd scare the bejesus out of the other folks in the nursing home if you rolled your wheelchair into the dining room with that bad boy on your chest.
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