This is my long journey to improve my art skills, and i appreciate any crits i can get. I started this sketchbook way back in 2004, so more recent(improved) work is on the last couple pages.
Last edited by RETEP; January 13th, 2010 at 12:54 PM.
Wow, great start, man. I hope to see more studies soon.
here are some more sketches
i used a reference pic for this one(not from a book)
i seemed to make the torso longer and narrower, i need to work on that.
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 08:48 PM.
good start man! I guess a tip for drawing those porportions is to measure the heads. It's usually one head length from the the neck to the nipple, nipple to belly button, belly button to groin, 2 more down for the knee, 2 (1 1/2?) more down for the foot. It's different for every pic or person but it's a quick way to see if your drawing is measuring up right. keep updating!
good to see a new book. the studies are a great thing to do, i myself am a big fan of bridgman. make sure u are seeing how and why he does things i.e. why he draws something this or that way and why he accents a specific line. making sure you see why he does something will help you understand, just seeing it and thinking "wow, that looks cool so ill draw it" will make you try to draw like him as opposed to understading anatomy the way he does. keep it up. hope to see more.
"Let it BURN"
thanks for the support
jackalanubis-thanks for the tips on proportion, i will definitely try it out. oh, i checked out your sketchbook, awsome man.
metaphysiks- i agree, i am doing these studies cause i really want to get better, so i am really trying to pay attention to the specific lines and understand the effect it has on the body. (its amazing what only one line can do)
here are some updates
used a ref. for this one, playing around and outlined her in ps
Last edited by dingoegret; June 9th, 2004 at 03:09 PM.
here are some updates, i am in the head section in the book
heres a pic i thought was cool, so i drew it
here are some sketches, i am going to try to start posting more of just my sketches and playing around.
thanks for the support guys
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 08:48 PM.
just a quick update
Last edited by dingoegret; June 9th, 2004 at 03:11 PM.
i am working on heads now and will have pages on the eyes and ears soon
here is an acrylic painting i am doing in class, not much done yet.
heres a dsg from the other day(i did color it but didnt like it)
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 08:49 PM.
what a cute lill rider....
"The function of art is to stop us and take us out of our skin,
Unveiling the spirit's pure nakedness without beginning or end.
These dialogues of Maker and Seer weave together matter with soul,
Consecrating the practice of art as speech of the ineffable." ~ALEXgrey
....fear the munky
hey, good to see youre doing so many studies. thats the quickest way to improvement. keep it up.
Althoug this one girl's proportions are pretty messed up, I really like the pic. It has some weird aesthetics to me, esp. the black hair and her breast. But, I think, this is only an exception and therefore your studies are certainly helpful in terms of learning anatomy and stuff. keep it up!
jj-which girl are you talking about?? both have kinda wack proportions, im trying to work on that.
heres an eye study
here are some quick figure studis i did, the girl on the bottom looks funny to me( i had trouble drawing her)
just an update on my painting(digital picture this time, not scanned)
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 08:50 PM.
here are some more updates, all crits and comments welcome.
here are two DSG pics i did. please crit about color, i need help with my coloring.
this one was inspired by Lung_Bug
here are some updates of my sketchbook, i did some quick human studies just like 2-3 min. each.
hope you enjoy
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 08:50 PM.
crits and comments will be appeciated
heres another DSG
Last edited by dingoegret; June 9th, 2004 at 03:16 PM.
Good work on your studies. I've got (or had...) Bridgeman's book and have used it extensivly - couldn't tell you where it is *now* (shuffles some books on desks, knocks over stack of CD's onto floor, cat screams, lamp collapses and pictures fall off wall) -- Nope. Don't have a clue.
Your original studies (non-book) are good as well, and you can see where you are applying what you getting out of the books. Keep it up.
In addition to doing figurative studies, you may also want to try some still lifes. Excellent for shape and shadow. Do them in color if you are wanting to work on your coloring skills.
Overall your is work is very good, if a little hesitant in some places. Try working on larger paper with looser strokes. Don't be afraid to "just let things happen". That's what a sketch is for.
Been watching your sketchbook since you posted in my own, but for some reason I kept forgetting to post in yours and I could have sworn I've done it before. Anyway, the noses are very good studies. I like those little thumbnail sketches in the corner. As far as your color I'm just learning all of this myself, but the girl doesn't have any depth to her( no shadows). The robot is better in that regard, but there is practically no contrast in either one. Also, whenever something has a local color (the sky's local color is blue, the grass' local color is green, the local color of an apple tends to be red, etc.), the shadows on the object tend to have the complement of the local color in them. It neutralizes the color, yet still keeps it vibrant. It's very strange, but it works. The fact that the girl's hair is orange realy helps her head pop away from the blue swirls in the background, but the blue-green suit she's wearing makes her body much harder to pick out.
If you want to take a look at something I've done, I put a picture from the coloring book thread into my sketchbook here. I used only blue, orange, black and white to color it. It should give you an idea of how complicated color can get.
There's a lot to remember about color. Hope that was helpful.
"As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. Unfortunately the resulting sparks set fire to any nearby artworks."
i'm back with another update
oregano-thanks. yeah, i have really been trying to apply what i have learned from the bridgeman book, i am glad it shows. i will try to work on some still life pretty soon, i think i am going to draw a still life with normal pencils and then do the same scene in colored pencils, and see how they turn out. i have a huge sketch book like 3ft by 2.5ft, i will whip it out and start sketching in it again.
jarvis2824- thanks for the tips on color. i will take your advice next time i color something. i check your sketchbook again, that self portrait is still really cool, and the robot cowboy is sweet. you mentioned a coloring book thread, where is that located?
heres a DSG pic, i colored it really quick (jarvis, i had not gotten your reply yet, so i could not have applied what you said)
charcoal studies i did
Last edited by dingoegret; June 9th, 2004 at 03:17 PM.
sweet work on the life drawing my friend....nice to meet yet anothre artist who is better than me!
its been awhile since my last update, i have kinda been slackin off recently:grumble:
heres an update on my painting, its going REAL sloooowwwww. dont get much time to work on it.
playing around with water color, didnt turn out right (need to find my set, and some good water color paper).
Last edited by dingoegret; June 9th, 2004 at 03:18 PM.
i got a magazine with Gollum on the cover and couldnt resist
dsg: stylish snowboarder
heres a pick from locke i did in the new media coloring book
Last edited by dingoegret; June 9th, 2004 at 03:19 PM.
great stuff so far! nice shading and stuff on gollum. i think his nose is maybe too off or on a different perspective, just seems a bit tweaked. but never the less, it is a great study of his face. great stuff man, keep it up! :chug:
but it all will be undone, and nothing built under the sun will ever stand before the endless march of sand
illy:thanks. after you pointed it out, his nose does look funny to me. i also had problems with his upper lip, i couldnt seem to make it look exactly right.
-i finished my painting of the green man, but know when i will be able to scan it cause its going to be in an art contest.
man study with charcoal (from pic)
i did this one to practice shadows (used ref)
Last edited by dingoegret; June 9th, 2004 at 03:20 PM.
here are some fun little sketches i did, i am going to try to practice my anatomy without refs when i get some more time.
heres an animal study
movin down to the torso
all crits are welcome
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 08:51 PM.
well, i havent been updating very often. i am going to try to update at least once a week :bash: .
heres one i did without using any ref., going to do this more often
used ref for these
a quick charcoal i did (ref)
some C&C would be great
Last edited by dingoegret; June 9th, 2004 at 03:25 PM.
You've made a lot of progress since last I posted. That coloring of the fellow with the technological arms for the coloring book was pretty good. Your figures are getting better and it's cool to see that you've started to incorporate color into your sketchbook doodles. Keep it up. Proud of you, if that's a proper thing to say.
"As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. Unfortunately the resulting sparks set fire to any nearby artworks."
jarvis-thanks, it really means alot. yeah i tried to put some color into my sketchbook, i need to do it more often (no color in these:bash: )
heres my update, i have been doint more on my own without reference trying to practic what i have learned in my studies.
ref (the two girls on top)
(the musce guy in the middle used ref)
i did not use any refs for these. i really need to work on my heads really bad!!!
please some crits on my faces!
i was wondering, when i am drawing clothes on people should i draw out the figure and then draw on clothes or just draw the clothes at the same time as body??
Last edited by dingoegret; June 9th, 2004 at 03:26 PM.
hey dingogret, very nice progress here. but what i want to comment on is
this one, not bad for studying with no ref but what i have to point out is that the chest area seems a bit squished, and sort of sliding to the right. get a mirror and take a look at the reflection, u ll get what i mean.
btw on the faces, they are looking pretty good, though the thing that is bothering me the most is the eyes, they seem BIG or the cornea does. btw if you know your imagination heads are looking bad, then go to drawing from ref and life, that is how u will learn how they correctly look.
absolutely draw the people first, see then you know where to lay the clothes depending on a crease here or there due to muscles, bones fat etc. when u start getting better at drawing clothing on people then you could pretty much imagine how clothes lay on ppl so you dont have to draw the person first.i was wondering, when i am drawing clothes on people should i draw out the figure and then draw on clothes or just draw the clothes at the same time as body??
gl, and i ll be waiting for an update!
Wow! thats really good for not using a reference! One crit I want to make though is that the pecs (or manbreasts) on the top left guy seem to be quite small vertically to me
Other than that great work.. can't wait till I get the bridgman book in a few weeks
[I am a member of the Middle Class!]
You can view my lurrvely new sketchbook here: http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?p=507266
Have a nice day!
keep workin those studies, man. make sure when you draw them, you arent just copying what you see. make sure you are really studying and learning from what you are doing. ive been doing a lot of studying lately, and after i finish studying something, i try to draw it without reference. i do a couple pages without the ref and i see how much i have/havent learned, and what else i need to do.. .its almost like a self evaluation. it works well for me, at least. just a suggestion. keep drawin
ladylioness-i see what you mean about the chest area. how are the faces in this update??
sixblade-yeah, i did kinda squish his manbreasts up. but for some reason to me it seemed like his head was too big, which kinda mest if up.
metalwinds-unfortunately your right, i rushed through my earlier studies and didnt try to apply them with no reference. well, back to the drawing board.
i havent updated in awhile, but i have been drawing (still not nearly enough). but i am going to be gone all next week, so hopefully when i get back i will have a HUGE update.
-i am trying to branch out and draw more mechanical stuff, animals and maybe cloth and landscapes.
just some sketches
-i have some photos of some acrylics ive done but my camera is screwing up :mad:
Last edited by dingoegret; July 20th, 2004 at 11:44 PM.
Hey dingoegret, nice! its looking good and i see improvement the faces are lookin pretty good, the 3rd one is a little funky though, the eyes on the top right one. His right eye is all the way up there. also on that same page, the bottom middle, his neck, its weird when you take a closer look at it.
other than those everything seems pretty fine to me, hope we get another big update
ladylioness-thanks for the crit, i will definately be working on faces this week. theres something that is lacking in my face sketches, i really want to pinpoint it. ill see what happens.
well my camera is working, so i wanted to squeese these in before i left. (there not the best quality, and there a little loppsided(sp) ).
some charcoal from kchen's posts that i was studying
some of my own no ref(little of others with ref)
well thats all for now, later
Last edited by dingoegret; June 12th, 2004 at 05:23 PM.
ive been back from my break for a couple days but school has been sorta hectic so i have not been able to scan my stuff. anyway, here they are....
just some sketches, through a tad bit of color in there....
sketching from life, and first self portrait.
well, all C&C are welcome.
Last edited by dingoegret; July 20th, 2004 at 06:02 PM.
over my break i had the chance to sit down and paint, and i took some progression pics along the way (didnt think to take pics till i was past a few steps, oops). i dont know if i qualify for this since its only my second oil painting, but here are the steps i took....
First i positioned the models face how i wanted it. proceeded(sp) to put a white piece of paper beside her left cheek, to reflect some light. then i took some pictures and picked my favorite.
Second (no pic, sorry) i did a quick skecth of her on canvas, paying close attention to proportions.
Third (no pic, ) i lay the base colors to the face. 1. very light sin tone 2.very dark skin tone 3. semi dark skin tone.
Fourth is when i went in and started refining the face. adding lips, eye, and putting in the subtle shadows.
Fifth i continue refining the face and added the hair. i didnt try to paint every strand of hair, just kept it simple and tried to keep the colors right.
Sixth i added the shirt, i decided to change the color to tie it in with her lips (and i didnt want her shirt to be a focal(sp) point. finally i outlined the face.
Seventh(final) i filled the canvas with black and blended in white on the right side of her head. and further refining things where i think it needed it.
-sorry about the quality and the lighting in the pics, i have to take pics with my camcorder (dont have a memory stick for my digital camera yet).
im not too good, as you can see the final painting doesnt look too much like the original picture. but i hope you all enjoy it .
-also if anyone could give me some crits that would be great too.
Last edited by dingoegret; July 20th, 2004 at 06:04 PM.
well, i have a problem. my computer is totally screwed up right now so i can't scan anything and wont be able to for awhile. i have alot of new sketches, so ill have a big dump when i can post again.
-figured id post this if anyone cares, didnt want my sketchook to disapear forever....
Finally got some time to look through your sketchbook.
Really good, I can see a lot of improvement in later work compared to your first sketches (which weren't bad either by the way)
I don't know if you've read Loomis Fun with a pencil but he has a interesting approach to drawing heads. You can find more info here including a pdf.
Hope your computerproblems are fixed soon.
my computer is fixed!! yay. i have alot to updated, heres some of my stuff. i will update the rest later.
buzzz3d-that link is awsome, it led me to alot of interesting books i might get. thanks alot man
here are some random sketches
i need to start doing more studies, i slowed down a bit (used ref).
self-portrait (was kinda upset at the time), -bottom, my sister(unfinished).
i found my old watercolor set, i had alot of fun with these (used ref).
-copied from another artwork
heres an oil painting i did after my self-portrait(horrible, i may not post it), i had alot of fun with colors on this one.
-final, the colors didnt come out right on this one for some reason.
well, thats all for now, i will update again soon.
Last edited by dingoegret; July 20th, 2004 at 11:46 PM.
Nice. Wish I had your motivation.
Wow, good stuff man.
Like the portraits and the handstudies.
What ref do you use for the hands?
very nice.....btw the acrylic flower paintings are soo pleasing to look at....
thanks everyone for replying, it really helps. and gets me motivated.
fallen11- after looking at all the stuff here at CA i cant help but pick up a pencil, thanks.
buzzz3d- thanks man. the hand studies are from Bridgman's complete guide to drawing from life, its a really great book. and got it on sale
insane visions- your one of my major inspirations here, thanks for taking a look at my stuff.
heres a pick i forgot to put in with my last update.
i will have another big update soon.
ok, im finished catching up for when my computer was screwed up yeah!!
more studies (ref)
no reference for this one
a charcoal(from art pic), an oil, and acrylic (finally posting the final image).(used ref. photos for paintings)
my first time using gouche, i used them alot like watercolor. (used ref.)
should i get rid of some of the old stuff so theres not such a big DL???
all crits and comments welcome,
Last edited by dingoegret; July 20th, 2004 at 11:48 PM.
Maybe you can link some of the older stuff so if someone wants to see it, they still have access.
The african girl is so awesome!
dude i must say i like seeing your work go through those steps- its a cool process to witness- kinda a insight to your creative process! nice work! :evilbat:
if a mime was crushed by tree in the woods, would anyone care?
Buzz3d-thanks. i made links in just about all my old posts other than the most recent ones, is the DL better now??
TheUbermind- thank you, i have another one here for ya.
Van- thank you man, i really appreciate it. ive seen your sketchbook recently, you've progressed alot!!
here is a painting i have been meaning to do for a long time. its a portrait of my friend Amy (from pic).-her eye looks a little off to me.
-the line is from where i scaned it in. coulldnt make it go away so i gave up.
any crits and comments??
Last edited by dingoegret; July 20th, 2004 at 06:12 PM.
You should remove the [/IMG] at the end of the link or otherwise it won't work.
You can test them yourself by clicking on them.
About the painting, I like where it is going, skin tones look very good but indeed the eyes look a bit off. Her right eye is looking more upward than her left one.
i have tons of pics to post, but i am going to post a few for the next couple of days since there are sooo many. ive really been working on my lines, trying to be more bold with my pencil. i have also been trying to improve my shading, which i dont think is too good. i am doing alot of hand studies, cause hands are just so dang hard to draw (with and without reference). i was wondering how my faces are coming along, if there are any mistakes i keep repeating.
-im increasing the size of the pictures to see the detail, and the lines better.
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 08:54 PM.
ive been really having alot more fun with my sketches. i am trying to fill up the page whenever i start a new one, instead of doing alittle at a time. its really helped to get me to draw more...
sketches (used ref for eskimo girl)
anatomy studies, i used reference for these
from life (and my horrible self portrait)
sitting around the book store
a DSG i did
til tomorrow :btu:
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 08:56 PM.
i worked with some charcoal today, i will try to post it soon. here are some more sketches from a few days ago...
studies with reference pics
studies without reference (need to do this more!!)
some more hand studies, mine without ref. are still horrible
thats all for now...
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 08:58 PM.
some charcoal sketches, i really enjoy messing around with charcoal :hh: . i need to do this more (used reference)
i used watercolor paper(140 LB) for the man, the rest are on newsprint
are the sketches too big? i think i may bring the size down some.
i would really really appreciate if i could get some crits on my skethes :nod:
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 09:00 PM.
Looks like your on the right path---I drew all the Bridgman stuff (several times over the years) studied Hale' stuff a lot read Master Class about 10 times Drawing Lessons about the same Anatomy Lessons not worth spit except for the pics.
I probably have every book and anatomy worth having so ask me before you waste time on crap!
The last couple of years I have been concentration on drawing from memory more than working from reference.
I do draw from the model about 4 to 6 hours a week.
My advice if you need some is adopt a mentor for a while and learn to think like him but make the drawing yours - try to reinvent what you are looking at in your own style. Do not copy analyze
mentler-thanks for the advise. i have always dreamed of having a mentor to learn under, but haven't met anyone(since i got serious about art about a year or two ago) who i can have that relationship with. but moving around alot like i have recently hasn't helped that.
heres just a quick charcoal update, i have alot of other sketches to post but im too lazy to scan them :crosseyed
two women are from photo, imagination, SP, and michelangelo study. hope you like...
close up SP
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 09:01 PM.
im back with another sketch dump, and a new name :waves:
-changed my name cause i wanted something more original (ok its that original), cause i didnt want to take the name from something else. i wanted my own name.
here are the regular anatomy studies, i think its starting to rub off a little. i got some metalwinds inspiration(as you can see with the michelangelo studies). and pulled out a pen for some quick head sketching.
sketches. also had some insane vision inspiration, but it came out like crap.
do my pages seem long or is it just me??
i would love some crits that really tear my stuff apart , really want to improve as much as possible.
Last edited by RETEP; August 12th, 2004 at 09:03 PM.
You never know to much anatomy!!!
I just posted bunch of old GB hand studies some are mine but mostly his will post more old boneworks in a day or two.
check em' out I think they may add to your day or nite!!