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okay well I need a goal. Everyone wants to go to another country in their life time, mine just happens to be wanting to see a great artistically historical country myself. SO here are my options, and I'm curious to your ideas too.
Paris or Italy?
I'm not big on the whole religious art, but some of the most famous artists reside in the churches. Plus there's the whole venice thing...but then there is France. particularly paris and the Louvre. Plus paris is where all the art stuff goes down. but I don't like french food...and chances are if I stay a week in either country I'm gonna be eating their food at some point
So which would you do? as fellow art lovers I'm interested to hear your thoughts or if you have been and would recommend? OR if there is somewhere better...?
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You should go to both, and see which one is the best ! I'm coming from france, tho living far from the big artistic places ! Well My couzin visited Italy, and when he showed me the pics i was astonished, it's really gorgeous ! Now, dunno about the amount of art stuff there, but girls in Italy are really gorgeous too ! Make your choice :p
It really depends on your taste, your budget and time at your disposal.
Paris, Rome and Venice are all charming. If you choose to stay a week in the same city I think Paris is the one that offers the most.
If you have weeks or a month the best thing IMO is renting a car and driving from one city to another, in this way you can appreciate how landscape, architecture, food and people change. Europe (and Italy in particualr) is... dense, you drive one hundred miles and everything changes around you.
What's wrong with French food?
These were shot in rome, vatican museum.
I also stayed in rome with a school trip, so i can't say much for the costs that where made staying (had to pay about 400 eur) but the food, i ate for a week for about 150 euro, thats 5 or 6 days of good food. If you take the alley-restaurants that is, those on plaza's are a tad to expensive.
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You can stay in one of the supercheap tourist resorts up the Northern end then bus or train to places like Madrid (Prado), Barcelona (Gaudi, Picasso).
You could probably stay in Southern France and do day trips to Spain and Italy but France is more expensive.
Ahhh ROME! How I wish I could go see the Holy See! And all the art. I would kill to take an art tour of Italy!
I myself was very impressed by italy (been to rome and florence) but if you don't like religious art you basicaly delete 1500+ years of art history which for the greatest part is what you see in italy. In that case you can better go to Paris I suppose. I don't know how big the art scene is in Paris right now, but from what I've heard Berlin is the place where the art stuff in europe is right now though Paris will still be big in it ofcourse.
I've been to Paris and Strasbourg in France and only to the Alps in northern Italy (the dolomites) so I never got to see Florence or Rome. However, I think whichever choice you go with you will be absolutely blown away. Paris has the Louvre, Arc De Triumph, Eiffel Tower, and tons of other stuff, and Rome has infinite amounts of beautiful temples and... well.. really its quite vain for me to try to sum it all up in a single paragraph. Again, no matter which way you choose, you will not regret your decision. However, I think you ought to open your horizons when it comes to the food.
Italians have the mafia and France surrenders too much. Italy wins. We're talking about who would win in a war, right?
Never been to either, so my word doesn't count.
btw I rethought it and perhaps going to both would be the best experience since they are like next to each other practically. maybe I'd spend more time in France I can't speak french yet but it's always a good idea to learn yes?
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If you prepare your own meals you don't have a problem.
I would prefer Paris to live for a while and there's enough artistic & historical stuff.
Also life and tuition is probably better organized in France.
Still traveling to other historical cities will expand your horizons even more.
Been in France and Italy many times and had an italian girlfriend for 1,5 years.
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"Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave."
Was in Paris yesterday, the Louvre is absolutely HUGE.
But what I was most impressed by is the ridiculous amount of hot chicks walking around. Seriously... it's just not normal!
I lived in both places and they are so different...
Paris is more organized for sure, amazing culture, if you don't speak french they are unlikely to help very much.
Italy is warm and the people will bring you home for dinner every night, they'll teach you the language and think it's cute when you mess up.
I loved both places for different reasons!!!
Only if you want to..but I don't like french food...and chances are if I stay a week in either country I'm gonna be eating their food at some point
Seriously, there is probably not a city in Europe without a KFC, McD's or Pizza Hut.
I've been to Paris many a time, and loved every second of it! I also really enjoy the south of France. And as far as food.... the french can cook all most every thing... and cook it VERY well!
As far as Italy, I'm afraid I've never been, But I've always wanted to.
By the way, if it was my choice I'd go to France and stalk Clochette... but that's just me
Go to both. Make friends online with people who live there, and crash at their places.
Go find the Paris and Italy subforums and see who's willing. Heck, once my house's built, I might rent out the guest room for a small fee to any artists who want to see all our Slovak castles.
How can you not like ''france'' food if you never been there? If you go in France with that state of mind and low expection about culture ( yah food is part of their culture ) you just gonna fukn love it.
From Eastern to Western Europe there is no much difference in food unless you are really looking for a old traditional meal. If you can't decide between both ( both are just fukn awesome ) save some more money and hit every you can with 1 plane ticket
I think going to both sounds like a great idea, but make sure you plan out your trip so you're going to have time to enjoy the places you go to. I've planned a few trips where we went too many places and almost spent more time on the train than we did in the city. It'd be great if you could plan a route where you could get out every few stops and look around. I often prefer the smaller villages to the larger tourist spots personally. And if you do travel between countries, you may be able to purchase cheaper international trains in advance online. I know in NL you can use Hi-Speed to go to Germany or France fairly cheaply.