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Old September 22nd, 2005, 08:44 PM
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Aves Apoxie lesson (kids don't try this at home)

Ok folks just thought I'd post a quickie here on the lesson I learned using my Aves Apoxie. I love this stuff and it works wonders on my sculpts even though its a real pain in butt to use.
This is what I had to learn the hard way. Ok being pushed for time to get to work today I decided to try the "pop it in the microwave" idea
When I read on here from a few peeps that it helps "speed" up the curing time. When the words "a couple seconds" comes up They MEAN JUST THAT. Being the lazy person that I tend to be I hit the number 1 button on the microwave. A couple seconds a minute, how much difference could it be,right?? HOLLY FREAKIN COW!!!! Opening the microwave the stuff looked as inocent as a just baked cookie. I figured I just touch the stuff to see how "warm" it was. Big Mistake!!!!! With just the tip of my fingers I was gonna just bairly touch the stuff. It instantly burned the tip of my finger. Reacting with a quick jerk just made it worse! The molten lava apoxie instantly stuck to my finger tip causeing me to pull a big globe of the fire from hell to plant itself to the middle of my fingers!!!
Now as I tried to remove the Saint elmos fire with my other fingers it was sticking to them burning the bejesus out of them!!!! Its funny now but gaw dang folks a little warning about this to us other would be mad scientist that get a bright idea would have been nice!!! DOH!!! Now for all my effort I have a nice Blister the size of a peanut on my finger!!!
So a word to the wise,
A couple SECONDS means Just that 2 seconds. This stuff microwaved would be a good weapon if you have an intruder pop in on you and he lets you microwave "your dinner" a minute or so. heehe
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Old September 23rd, 2005, 01:09 AM
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Too Funny Claydar

Sorry for laughing, but your humor here about the burned finger really cracked me up. Microwaves scare the bejesus out of me when it comes to any type of clay baking, so no matter what, would never go near it. But it is interesting to know that you can microwave the apoxy if really necessary. Thanks for the tip.
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Old September 23rd, 2005, 01:17 AM
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No Prob EF Its a lesson I thought a few could hear to keep from burning them selves like I did. Learning to laugh at ourselves more would make the earth a much more friendly place.

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I've had my fair share of burns over the years. One of the dumbest things I did was once I melted hot glue on my finger and without thinking, put it in my mouth to cool it off. BIG MISTAKE!!! So instead of just having singed fingers, I had molten hot glue on my fingers and in my mouth. Whenever working around hot stuff (hot glue, heated materials, burners, soldering irons, etc.) always keep a bowl of water nearby.
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Old September 23rd, 2005, 05:52 AM
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Hey bracomadar, with this finger-and-hot-glue-in-the-mouth-story you really top ClayDar. Man, reading some of these forum storys can be more funny than watching the comedy stuff in german television. Just imagening your face when realizing what you've done the second putting your glued finger in your mouth, maaaaaan !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But your story,ClayDar, is also funny as hell. We should do a short film about this kinda stuff and call it "Attack of the Apoxie" or "Apoxie Attacks!" or "Plan 9 from Outer Space" (if this title wouldn't already exist).

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No dout! I'm sure there are a bunch of stories of mishaps out there. Just thought I'd share and spare someone else the pain and the feeling like a complete dork for doing it. I think I learned my lesson and yah a bowl of water near by would have been better. I was sooo busy trying to get the crap off all my fingers I wanted to get the sink water turned!! I was swearing up and down but the stuff kept spreading!!! It was insane!! Yah we need a film!! Hell them dorks at jack ass want pain? Tell them to heat this stuff up!! LOL

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Hehe, i feel your pain. I've had the tip of my thumb covered in a boiling plasticine/polystyrene mix, and I suppose it's the same class of mind numbing pain. The last thing on my mind was water, I wanted REVENGE!
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Many many decades ago, when casting plastics were in their infancy (at least as far as the public was concerned), an idiot I was in art school with decided to try out some 2-part casting to see what he could get it to do.

He had a glass cube taped together and anchored in plasticene, about a foot cubed, and started mixing up the fluids and dumping them in. Of course, we couldn't find the directions and notes on the proper amount of catalyst to add, so we winged it. The mix was prepped in wax-coated milk cartons and each was dumped in the cube. At some point, about halfway through the cube filling, he decided to add some color...a bottle of Pepsi and two shot glasses of turp stained with oil paint. Looked nice.

Anyone here who knows what happens when you put too much catalyst in part of the mix, and not enough in some, and add turp and water, please raise your hand...hint...it involves very high temperatures...

The explosion blew out six windows, destroyed a model stand and about a month's collection of student assignments, and yanked the lights out of the ceiling. It took us three months to get all the glass, plastic and debris out of the walls and floor.

...and not one person was hurt. We went out to have a cigarette when the mess started to make funny noises...



...and no, I wasn't dropped on my head. I was hit head-on by a truck hauling 23,000 pounds of steel coils while playing chicken with it...
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NICCCEEEE. Good to see we all have a little mad scientist in us!!!

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I also did a great thing, of course with the photomodel girl i was trying to impress with my baking skills. SO making a cake for her sisters b-day, I said it would be a good idea to make some fudge and have as a inlay in a chocolate cake. So I melted all the sugar in a bowl, it turned brown and looked nice and runny.
SO acting like this was something i did every day, I without thinking just stuck my damn finger in half an inch of melted and boiling sugar, rip it out with a yelp and stick it in my mouth, and then continue to go apeshiit in her flat, spitting and convulsing on the floor.
Pretty smooth....
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Go on guys! I need this amusement after such a shitty work day. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

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Oh man I bet that hurt Tim!!!! Sugar can get so friggin hot!!! What was the girlfriend doing?? I imagine she was probably feaking out or she was laughing her ass off!!

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Dear mother of God!!!
You people!

I don't have anything for sugary napalm blisters or fast cast schoolmade nitro blasts but I can give you a great tip for burns.
Just after a burn cut a potato in half and place the inside facing your burn.
Ducktape the half potato on it and wait until the potato dries of its starch.

Believe me it works miracles.
The pain decreases real fast and the burn desapears without a mark.
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Hehe, thanks for the tip about the potato!

But I can assure you that my mind goes blank with pain, a potato is the last thing on my mind. And even if I did remember, I guess Id completley blow my chances if I first did something as stupid as putting a finger in boling sugar and the screamd at the top of my lungs:

QUICK!! I NEED A POTATO!!! A POTATO DAMN IT!!! AND SOM DUCTAPE!!

Regarding what the POTENTIAL girlfriend was doing:

Staring at me in complete disbelief...
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Hahaha guys.. Funny stories. Other people's pain IS funny!

I remember one time i was working with my father on a house he was building. Making myself a little bonfire, i burned debris i found around the construction site. I found this little mat that felt like felt or something.(I learned later that it was insulation of some sort..) I threw it on the fire. It didnt burn. I grabbed it and pulled it out of there. But the mat didnt feel like felt anymore. It melted and clung to my hand. As i desperately tried to get it off, i smeared it over all my fingers, on BOTH hands. Needless to say, I spent the next days in pain.

Another time when i was about 15 years old, we used to play with lighter gas. You know, filling glasses, ashtrays, our fists or whatever with lighter gas and ignite it. I found out it would be cool to fill an entire bottle with gas. Since the gas is heavier than normal air, it gathered at the bottom of the bottle, and i couldt ignite it when i held the bottle upright. So, being the genious that i was those days, i turned the bottle around, and lit the lighter. All i heard was a whistling sound, and before i realized what had happened, a blue blowtorch-like flame had burned a hole in my thumb. I sure was a smart one back in those days.
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MAN! my sides are hurting. So here's one just for fun. as kids, my brothers and I all did our time as summertime helpers for my grandfather, who was a plumber.One day while helping my grandfather at the site of a new house, My younger brother had to take a dump and headed for the woods behind the house. Not being able to find any kind of paper, He settled for some fluffy pink stuff he found on the site.

WARNING: Insulation does NOT make good toilet tissue!
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GLKSHKJAHLKHAKLJ.. fibreglass splinters are the worst. theyre so small and iritating and numerous, and they hang around for days. my dad crawls thru ceilings for a living, and so he collects vast amounts of the stuff on his clothes. tip for those who share a washing machine with such a person and their laundry: DONT. the stuff goes right thru your clothes, looks innocent enough, but when you put on your jocks and shirt and jeans all ready to go to the movies or something, youll find yourself hurting bad.

one girl i know melted her ugg boots (thats an australian thing) on a fire (sitting too close) and blew out her nostril hairs with a lighter (again, too close) in the same night. i often play hot coal hackey, wherein you select a white hot chunk of the stuff from a fire and play hot potato with your hands (good tip by the way blackfrog). oh, and when me and my dad were welding some new metal into the mini's rusted floor (an area in close proximity to the fuel line), the horsehair "sound proofing" went up in flames, and off when the fire extinguisher.. tho it didnt stop so i got a lung-or-two full

*sigh* i guess i havent been as volatile as you all, but i can at least laugh at your pain
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thanks for the laugh. I almost spit my drink out of my nose!


Isn't it sick to laugh at another mans pain?

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When I was a kid, I saw my cousins and their friends showing off by lighting a paper bag on fire and stomping it out with their bare feet. I was only seven and to me that was super cool, so my friend and I decided to try it. I whent first. I lit the bag and started stomping. The fire whent out. The only problem was that the bag was a potato chip bag, made of plastic and molten plastic sticks to skin. My friend never tried it. Meby I should have left the chips in the bag and tried that potato thing.
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Back to the original point...
I sculpt miniatures with kneadatite and apoxie sculpt (and vasious mixes of the two). To speed up the curing time, many miniature sculptors use desktop "ovens" consisting of generally a clamp lamp and an empty coffee can. The bottom is cut out, the lamp is attached to one end with a 25-45 watt lightbulb, and the contraption is placed over the sculpt. This cures it within 20-30 minutes. Personally I use a cardboard tube that is foil lined on the inside and has a hole cut out on one side so I can put pieces in there. I have a desktop lamp that I place over the opening on the top. This gets the 'oven" hot enough to cure things pretty quickly. Only issue is if the temp gets too high, it can cause any air bubbles from gaps between putty layers to expand. Of course that's not an issue if there aren't any air bubbles in the first place. I'd stay away from the microwaves
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thanks guys

i just wanted to thank you all....i was reading this post while eating some chips and got so engrossed with the fantastic stories that i put some chips in my mouth and bit my finger....its BLEEDING!!!....bloody difficult to type....

anyway i will survive....and i wanted to tell you about the time i was in the army and the sargeant told me and a mate to go get a barrel of diesel for the generator...it was at night.... and we got to the fuel depot and we didnt have a flashlight so my genius mate says that he has a lighter and not to worry because the fuel doesnt ignite if you dont actually touch it.....i believed him and he stuck his hand in the barrel to see if it was full.


they said that they saw a pillar of fire a couple of meters high from the camp.
we got off without our eyebrows and some hair on our heads...his hand was burnt but not seriously.

had to share
my finger is throbbing now
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