B-Man: Thankyou, and please study away
Kyle: It was great to hear from you, hopfully we will see you back someday
Molly- The more the merrier
Intern-Ah it's not that nice, okay yeah it is, but shhhhhhh. Everyone will want to move here.
Pencilator- love the avatar
seth1- Thanks, and I will. infact I should have some new stuff next week
Very nice, EM GIST! I just have some problems with some of the heads in very few of the drawings. And I don't want to sound rude, but that woman looks grotesquely huge. Looks like you had fun though. And the other stout man, looks like you exaggerated it a bit, which I don't find wrong at all. The 5 min heads are fantastic! You put down a lot of info in under short time.
Anyway, I enjoyed these. Looking forward for more! THanks.
beautiful, thank you.
Im loving the quick sketches, the amount of detail you get down in a small space of time....
This may sound like a silly request, but any chance you could post what your charcoal pencil looks like? The application of your lines are kinda soft, and well, I'd like to see how you've managed to get them so smooth and even, I reckon the nib is sanded down one side??? If no-can-do, no worries
How much life drawing a day/week do you do?
So awesome. Watts! I seriously want to go there. I was just looking at art center and I realize theres no possible way I can afford 20 thousand a semester so maybe I can afford Watts. I'm really impressed and inspired by your work and I bet I'd learn a ton and improve faster at watts. How are you liking watts so far? Is it a good deal? Oh do you know if they offer scholarships? ahha so many questions. Later!
Patdzon- Thanks, what specifically about the heads bothers you?
Molly-I don't have a picture handy but, I sharpen the charcoal pencil to a long 1.5 inch taper sanded smooth but not flat. I teach 8-9 classes a week and take 1-3 classes so 30 hours a week or so.
Chris- I have actually been at Watts for going on 10 yrs the first 3 as just a student the last 3 as a fulltime instructor, the 4 in the middle a bit of both while working in video games as well. The price I think is very fair at $360 per class at 3 hrs a week for ten weeks, thats $12 per hour. I made back every penny I ever spent my first 6 months working as an artist. While this might not be typical it is not unusual either. Like any school you get out of it what you put in. As far as scholarships we do not offer any, but places like ARC offer some that can be applied at Watts.
I'm referring to the head of the 20-25 min full length, standing female figure and the portrait of the young male with the short beard.
On the female figure, the light side of her face looks flat. Maybe a suggestion of the forms on that side would help. Also, the shape of her head looks as plane and smooth as a mannikin's. There's not much variety in it.
On the portrait, I feel weird about the comparison of his eyes. One looks lively and the other, dead. Hehe...But I don't know his actual appearance. Maybe darken the value of his right eye's iris?
patdzon-Thanks, yeah I had trouble matching up the eyes on that head drawing, I am still not sure what it is, but I will give your comment a try. And the figure, it was a 25 min figure demonstration so I wanted to spend more time on the figure, I tried to get back to the head, but just ran out of time. Thanks for the input.
Extremely solid works <> enjoyed it very much <> miss you at SoFA
Patdzon- matching up eyes without killing the life in them has always been a nemesis of mine
mentler- Thanks, I had not posted here in awhile either, work, work, work. I love it, but between that and being married it leaves little time for anything else. Infact I will probably be disappearing again for about a month or two, but hopefully when I come back I will have some cool stuff to show.
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Was sitting and looking at your wonderful 15hours figure, beautiful, to the smallest details, and such a wonderfully drawn feet and hands, especially the one with fore shortening ( on the other one the cast shadow is a bit too dark and deceits eyes a bit. And texture of the fur is very beautiful.
3 hours drawing has a wonderful volume and just pure pleasure to look at.
5 min sketches are so much fun and information to observe, thank you so much.
I was wondering if I may ask you to tell the most important clues to look and watch for when drawing a human figure. I know some of them and actually should probably figure it out myself from the construction of the skeleton. But I thought I better ask you, no pressure to answer though, but I will appreciate it greatly. I meant clues like this: the length of the person's hand should be approximately the length of his face, or the length of the foot should be the same as a length of the arm from the wrist to the elbow... I was thinking maybe you can help to know more tricks like those, where should rib cage stop comparing to other parts, for example.
sve-I really don't use that many standard proportion measurments, because with foreshortening and standard human variation I find they only confuse. But some that I do find myself using most, to double check, would be those you mentioned, hand the size of the face, foot the length of the for forearm. As well as others, ribcage roughly 1.5 times the size of the head, but the one I use most often is an odd one, and that is the pit of the neck is half way between the navel and the top of the head. The reason I use this so often is most times I start my drawings by finding the center of the pose, 3 out of four times the navel is a short distance from there(one I can comfortably eyeball) then halfway to the top of the head is the pit of the neck, just above that is the chin, now I have a reasonable estimate for the size of the head.
More important than any of that I use a sort of triangulation. For instance, I will draw an angle from one shoulder to the other, then an angle from the top of the head to the shoulder, where these lines cross gives me the tip of the shoulder. As I get more established I double check this off of other angles and plumb lines.
here is a drawing I forgot to add
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Hello, E.M.Gist . Well, I don't have enough words to express my delight and respect to you. Thank you, thank you, thank you and I'm sending huge positive vibes and best wishes in your direction. . I'm so glad I can have the possibility to learn from you!!!. You are the greatest! I bet you are an awesome teacher. A rare combination, btw, with being a great artist, as you are too!
Such a funny guy, the model of yours, not from our time at all. Looks like from the end of the 18th century.
So thank you again.
Those quick sketches are f*ckin awesome.
No, really.....holy sh*t!
I'm interested to know what size you are working at for these.
Especially the 3 hour and the 5 minute poses.
Great work, especially the quick poses. What paper are you working on?, looks quite light. Watts obviously produces some great artists.
Hybridstar-Thanks,I work on smooth newsprint for the most part. They are talking about it here http://conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=38849. My longer drawings(over 6 hrs) are done on either 300 or 500 series bristol board from strathmore
Thanks alot E.M, just ordered 2000 sheets from dickblick!!!. Anyone have any feedback on ordering overseas from DB? As in did it go pretty smoothly without complications. After reading that thread it seems like Watts have a sugested materials list. I use the Conte Pierre Noir regularly and also the conte charcoal pencils, any others i should check out?. I teach life drawing classes and workshops and would like to pass on any suggestions to my students.
great stuff <> your students are lucky
Wow wow wow! All of these are awesome. Awesome is not the word to discribe it! Really inspiring. Erik, What do you usually use? It looks like charcoal pencil and some are conte?
Your stuff reminds me of Kevin Chen.
Just absolutley beautiful and inspiring.
Also the way you block in shadows even though it doesn't take long it puts so much life into your drawings.
Btw do you block in the initial figure with contruction like you have shown above?