Last edited by zomg; July 16th, 2012 at 04:31 PM.
...I see a smudge that's filled with horrible jpeg artifacts. Care to upload the actual image?
Though even from this point I can say, do more thumbnails to explore the composition, and get proper reference images. Don't try to just fart out bird wings or fire effects if you don't understand how either of them work or look like.
@tinybird: I am working on understanding the forms and stuff ... I did have some reference images but not for the bird .. I plan on finishing that last since thats the subject and since its in mid ground.
Seriously it will be pretty irritating if you work out everything else in the image to support the current bird only to finally get a ref for the bird an notice that the whole thing is crap and you'll have to change the bird drastically (the placement/pose of the wings, size and pose of the legs, tail, neck, bodyshape and so on) which in turn will break the rest of the image. Not to mention the bird is the most biggest thing in the image as well as the main subject so having it look right is kinda important and shouldn't be left as an afterthought.
Even if you plan on finishing the bird last, you really should have a good idea what the end image should/will look like, and if you don't know what the bird will look like after you've done it with refs, it's kinda hard.
As for the image you have now, it's hard for me to get what is happening. Is the bird rising from the ground, or did it crash to the ground a leave a crater? Especially since there's nothing to indicate the connection of the bird and the crater. What is the bird doing? Just hovering curiously or is it planning to fry the little guy (I assume that thing is a man)? Is it actually beating its wings or levitating by magic? Where is the light coming from so that it falls only to the little guy but not anywhere else?
EDIT: Also I think this has been said to your every single time you've posted something here, but it's hard to "understand the forms" when you're trying to just whip something from your head that you do not actually understand, especially if you refuse to get a ref or draw/paint stuff from life.
I did a paint-over to illustrate a few details I changed:
-I moved the worshiper so that he is in the proper eye line as the Phoenix.
-I tried to separate the foreground from the background by darkening the foreground and making the background brighter.
-(This is an important one) I tried to make the fire look very hot, and very bright. I'm not sure why, but when many people paint fire, they tend to make it look like ketchup being squirted all over. Fire is not a solid mass, and shouldn't be painted as such. When you paint fire, it's like painting a light bulb in a gas form. It's always glowing, and always hot.
-Fire is also very energetic in its movements and effects on the atmosphere. It spits out embers and can whip around rapidly. You need to capture that movement in your image, otherwise it looks dead and un-moving. Think about the smoke it leaves and the light that bleeds off of it from the heat.
-And absolutely get reference for that bird. You'll be glad you did.
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@tinybird: thanks for all your crits ... next time i ll start with references.
@keith: Thanks for the awesome paintover and I learned a lot from that.