thanks danny and adrian! oh yeh deffo from a photo, i could never do something like that from imagination!
heres one from a photo of my gf giorgia. i think these studies are helping you know, the pen feels less awkward in my hand and i starting to find which brushes are good. let me know what you think.
also someone at Autodesk made a logo thing based on one of the parts I did for a little iPhone game for a developer working for them, which i thought was nice.