thx marian, ya a got alot of useless information in my head as well take the bitter with the sweet : )
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Good stuff since i was here last. I gotta admit the night machine gun nest charge made me kinda laugh inside. Silly officer-i guess college doesnt prep you for EVERYTHING. Keep it up.
Edit-silly referring to the character charging mg w pistol, not the drawing. Hehheh
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Teapo- thanks man, ya i took that up again after a long time just leaving it unifinished i hope im getting better at finishing stuff
superswank- lol thx for clarifying, ya it doesnt really stand up to a machine gun very well, i think the british didnt really know it was there until they got that close, or thats wat i was going for i guess :p
mcClain- yaa still army guys, to people who arent interested in army stuff wat can i say this sketchbook aint for everyone thx for commenting man
edit- this is a pic of 2 characters in a story im working on with a friend. they get lost from their battalion in Argonne Forest in the first world war, which was known as the lost battalion---- double lost! lol
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haha ya i know of that guy, its kind of sad guy was eatin coconuts stealing stuff for that long, such prideful soldiers them japanese...
Yea, I couldn't think of another nation with such loyal soldiers...sometimes to the point of insanity.
Seeing you clearly have an interest in war related stuff. . .
There's some really good american combat artists here from WW2. And definitely work on poses, the unbelievable poses completely kill the image of those British soldiers charging that machine gun, especially with the one who's apparently been shot, there also isn't anything there to indicate that he took a hit other than him leaning back, the expressions don't make much sense either. And earlier I think you said you look off the internet for reference, I think for what you're trying to pull off, you should get your own. You can just record yourself and take pictures, even it's just to get down the pose and proportions. If you can somehow find a nearby reenactment group, that'd really boost the quality of your work. If there isn't anything like that nearby, maybe you could buy replica clothing from the period, I don't know how much that would cost though. Anyway, keep it up man.
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well everyones a critic and thats why i come here man. i dont get most of my ref off internet, and joining a reeactor group or buying clothes are expensive ya but i draw a little bit of every type of era so that isnt a very good answer to the accuracy of the guys i draw. besides im still working on it, as im sure u are working on ur stuff, not there yet is all
thx for commenting man
why is this not 5*? i think the faces are really epressive; nothing is random its all controlled lines that embue meaning... i disagree with "the expressions don't make much sense either" if you take a snapshot of a group of guys everyone will be be caught in the microexpressions that go with human communication; we dont register those 1/16th second moments as expresions, but in the still frameyou can see people are talking, laughing, blinking, breathing; which is what i see depicted here.
it makes your people look alive not simply angry or scared like with a some of character art... i mean, does wolverine do anything other than grit his teeth and snarl, ever?
as to period dress, thats for complteteists, and i get it, but me and most people dont know which model of helmet goes in which year of WW2, so its all convincing to me..
no crits, all good
thx kendall that means alot man. ya good wolverine analogy almost makes them seem like 2 dimensional characters doesnt it lol
this is a pic i started coloring in and adding detail i didnt realize how many germans there were til i got started. happy so far although the guy helping up the other from the trench looks like a goblin... sort of? lol
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Even if something would make sense in a photo doesn't necessarily mean it'd make sense in a drawing or a painting, if that's what you're saying. Even if it's reality, if it doesn't read, take liberty with it and make it read. The expression on most of the soldiers' faces make sense in that scene, even if they come off as cheesy (I think it's just that poses seem to passive which doesn't match up with them), except for the one who's actually been shot, which has a peaceful expression.
Anyway, reference for this can be hard to come by, but still, go straight to the source if you can. I suggest looking up James Gurney's "Imaginative Realism" if you haven't already, he does all sorts of crazy sci fi and fantasy illustrations (his Dinotopia illustrations are his claim to fame), but he improvises all sorts of quality references and you can obviously see it in his work, he shows how in the book. You can draw from the imagination very well, light years better than I can (that isn't saying much), but good reference would take it to a finish. Oh yeah, and I'm not feeling a sense of composition in your work, you can render, miles better than me, (again, that isn't saying much) but even if you had the rendering skills of someone like Rembrant, Da Vinci, Michelangelo or whatever, it won't save a crappy composition. You make a good cake (thumbnails) THEN you put on sprinkles and icing (details/rendering), not the other way around. Speaking of compostion, try to avoid square like dimensions.
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fair enough man, thx for commenting
Even if something would make sense in a photo doesn't necessarily mean it'd make sense in a drawing or a painting, if that's what you're saying. Even if it's reality, if it doesn't read, take liberty with it and make it read."
yep that strue. i guess i personally have a preference for the sort of loose style that attempts to capture emotions as if the subjects are not posing; people make silly expressions as well as cool ones... but of course youre right that to achieve that is in fact involves training and experience and planning that a good artist therefore needs..
"I suggest looking up James Gurney's "Imaginative Realism""
yep definitely. ive read jim gurneys blog literally front to back after someone here pointed me to it before xmas. really good. supersmart guy, i like his steez in general.
Yeah, to be fair, it is pretty hard to capture someone in the middle of doing something and getting to make sense. It's usually best to show an action during its extremes. For example, if you're drawing someone throwing a punch, it looks the most powerful when the person is winding up for it or after he's thrown it, inbetween, as a still frame, it's gonna look weak, because it doesn't have as much sweep or gesture as the pose does in the beginning or in the end. Like if you want to draw someone getting shot, a still frame of the moment they're hit won't make sense, but showing them in the moment of collapsing just before they're about to hit the ground would make sense.
yep agree with all of that.
one piece of art pretty much everyone except my mum agrees is awesome is Curb your Enthusiasm. that seems really naturalistic when you watch it, the characters mostly pretty realistic and 3d, but of course really it is in fact beautifully planned, AND then executed on the day with a brilliant touch... so the 2 or 3 plots meander accross eachother before colliding at the end in a perfect trick shot.
also, i like how if you show someone looking weak, when they look strong it means more; sometimes larry is so fucking funny it makes all the horror ok! brill.
Just found a massive list of WW2 era reenactment groups. Hopefully you can find some that are nearby and that won't mind you shooting some photos.
thx stabby- im really not that excited about it that im going to go looking for reenactment groups as a matter of fact i should probably take a break from the military stuff
thx jramauri- im glad someone thinks so
Man I haven't been in your SB for a while, but it is still top-notch stuff! Looking good man. That "Over the Side" pic is really coming on, I like all the small nuances in it, body language and poses are good.
I really like the guy in #493. I can't tell you why exactly, but it's probably my favourite of your character portraits so far. It just seems to have an extra spark to it, makes it bellievable or something.
Cheers for sharing man, works are looking good.