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    Ok, my first attempt at digital painting...WIP folks. Crit me but please be kind, as I am using a mouse for this :-\

    Too poor for a tablet at the moment..

    Also - I hope the subject matter is not offensive. I find the German Soldier during WWII looked the coolest. I am NOT a Nazi nor do I sympathize with their crap.

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    Zomg!
    He drew a Nazi!

    Go fetch your standard issue Pitchforks and Torches, folks.
    We've got some angry mob-ing to do!




    The disclaimer was a little over cautious, I think. :p
    You know, there's been about 300-some videogames based on War World II? There's good money in drawing Nazis, certainly nothing to be ashamed about.

    Your doing a great job, tablet or not.
    Anatomy seems about on target, his expression is appropriate, shading consistent. I especially find the stubble a very nice realistic touch.

    My only concern would be the color.
    As far as I know, Infantry uniforms were a kind of muted green, almost grey.
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    Zilant, your kind words are very much appreciated. Thank you. You are right, the green is a tad historically incorrect. Ok, it's a LOT historically incorrect. Hmmmm, must think of clever ways to fix this rather than scrap the entire layer....Hues maybe?

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    That type of uniform he is wearing was never issued in green. :p

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    just to show how much effect a 1 minuit google pic search can have

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    LOL thanks fellers ;-)

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    Try doing your drawing in pencil first. Then when you have a nice clean drawing your happy with, scan it in and then colour it.

    And add a little background colour in. Even if it is just one even colour.
    Trying to work on a plain white background screws up your colour perception.

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    i was thinking of maybe smoke/haze and a tank in the BG. First I need to fix the uniform. I did this with a mouse before I got a scanner but I'll bet it would look better if I did it by hand.

    Thanks for the crits! Keep em comin! I'm going to work on this some more tonight and try to get posted back up here...

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    Ok, I have modified the colors a bit to try and make a closer match to the field grey the Wehrmacht wore. It's not perfect but I'm still working on it.

    I tell you, the helmet is giving me grief, I just can't get the coloring right. This is all i'm giving it tonight and i'll work on it some more tommorrow.

    Looking forward to crits...let me have it. Bad crits are much better than none at all.

    Goodnight ladies and gents...

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    The green looks better, it has more depth and better contrast now This should look great when it's neatened up.

    I do agree with what Craig was saying about placing a background colour though - i always bucket fill the bg with the general colour i want the piece to be before i start colouring. You can then work some of that bg colour into your foreground, and it helps with lighting etc too. Helps to unify the piece i think. And then of course you can develop your plain bg into the tank etc with that base colour as your starting point.
    Might be worth a try - if nothing else, i find it easier to see my foreground colours and sketch lines against a darker bg, but that's probs cos i sketch in red ^^ keep going, and be sure to post your progress

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    Much better I think.
    I'd say his collar looks a bit off. The left and right side aren't quite the same, and that's not just perspective.
    Also, I don't think the whole suit is made of one piece. I think at least the sleeves are made of a separate piece of cloth, so to speak.
    I also think he's holding his head back, As if he's cold. Perhaps a cold environment would do nicely.
    About the helmet; Perhaps a strong metal highlight would do the trick. Or maybe the area above his head is a bit too "horizontal"
    See if you can use it, I'm not a pro

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    Zimzibar - thank you for your thoughts! I will throw up a BG tonight, although I can't hold a candle to your work!

    Anthis - Yes I just noticed the collar, it looks waaay off. I think i'm going to redo the left to look more natural and put it in perspective...maybe a little more disheveled looking. Oh and the units that wore the coif usually were on the Russian front...so maybe a little bit o snow in the BG would be nice.

    The problem I have is...I need to do more life studies, I tend to draw things squared off (comic book style) that is a blessing a curse at the same time.

    Thanks for the replies! More to come this evening...

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    Ok, it isn't much but I added some decals...worked with the collar some more and am toying with background textures.

    I'm having a hard time maintaining the will to finish this one. I don't want to keep boring ya'll with it. I may just leave it messy, throw it in the old sketchbook and start something else...idea's are starting to come to me...

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    Before you quit at least clean up your edges a bit. The back of his helmet looks like their is stuff growing off it.

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    Craig D - Will do sir.

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    Meh, I think I like it a little actually, I'm going to go ahead and finish it :-D

    As far as critting my own work here I think I need to redo the coif (it doesn't look natural enough), a background obviously and finish detailing the folds in the clothing, and clean everything up.

    Should I make it look CG or leave it with a slightly messy painted look? With CG I'd imagine I should use the blur and dodge tools etc etc...what are your opinions?

    I'll probably post another update when I get the background done or when I'm completed. Thanks for everyone's input! If it weren't for you guys I wouldn't have gone this far.

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    I wouldn't blur - i'd just mess with the opacities of your brush so that you can blend colours a bit more - it is a bit too sketchy at the moment i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmoreland View Post
    With CG I'd imagine I should use the blur and dodge tools etc etc...what are your opinions?
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    I don't do much digital painting but the concensus around here is that the
    blur and dodge tools should be avoided like the plague.

    Really good artists do sometimes use them but you need a very light touch.

    Go and read this thread for a better way
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47859

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    Hmmm...

    Nice drawing for a mouse! I hope you get a tablet soon, though! And my question... why did you choose to write "Soldat" instead of "Soldier"? Are you romanian? Hehe, ar fi interesant...

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    lol Soldat is German for soldier. Ich spreche ein bisschen Deutsch :-)

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