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    It really is disgusting...


    A week or so back, at about the same time as the virginia tech shooting, almost 200 american soldiers were killed in iraq, yet i never heard a word about it on the news.
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    ...not that it makes it any better but it was 200 civilians not soldiers and it goes with out saying that politics are probably not wanted here.

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    200 soldiers, hah!
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    politics are probably not wanted here.
    Thus the phrase... "wake up".

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    It would be really nice to see the view count on this go up dramatically.

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    Considering that it's called "Orwell Rolls in his Grave" and hosted on "SurfingtheApocylapse.tv", I expected to be laughing at how crazy and silly these people are. Instead, I found myself agreeing with every single point they made.

    Seriously, they outline, in full, both why I don't vote and why I don't follow the news. It's funny how the more educated I've become, the more I realize how futile American "Democracy" really is.

    Edit: In semi-related news, my girlfriend was telling me earlier that Boris Yeltsin just died, and how Russia is going to make today a national holiday. It makes me laugh, because upon hearing that news, I imagined Yeltsin busting a vodka bottle over Putin's head and screaming about how insulting it is that a dictator such as the likes of Putin would dare to make a holiday in his name.

    I just seemed really ironic to me, and being in the middle of watching this video didn't help with that.
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    Here's the only media rag I buy, and trust to a certain extent http://www.newstatesman.com/

    Objective reporting without Bill Hicks' 'WAR! FAMINE! DEATH! AIDS!' scare tactic headlines. It does have a centre left bias, but some of their regular columnists are right wingers. Overall, a good balance of opinion from across the political spectrum.

    Also, if you'd like to see the world's media, in one week at a glance, this magazine is where its at. http://info.theweek.co.uk/

    All other newspapers and TV news outlets can kiss my arse, they're full of shit.

    Pete

    PS: I love this quote, I'm not sure who coined it, but it makes me laugh, "Democracy: two wolves and a sheep, voting on what's for dinner."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadlyFreeze View Post
    ...not that it makes it any better but it was 200 civilians not soldiers and it goes with out saying that politics are probably not wanted here.
    Even better. I only heard a minute of it on public radio while driving, as i get home to check the news to hear more about it... nothing. No one was covering it.
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    being around people that think in extreme black and white terms with inability to regulate their emotions, broke his noodle.
    People are becoming more and more extreme in their perceptions.....and it scares me.

    OK, the Republican Party is starting to look like the 'Bully Party'. I hate bullies.
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    this is all just more bits leading up to the revolution.. a few other threads lkike this are around here somewhere. sign up now and get your free t-shirt!

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    Wow, good watch. Alot of the theory behind what they were talking about I was aware of, but some of the scandals and information I was unaware of. (Which heavily supports their point) The "liberal bias in the media" thing is really my favorite topic. Its become the battle cry of pudits and talking heads whenever their points are challenged. For years now I've been hearing that, and yet at the same time I noticed that the owners of these giagantic media holding companies are ultra-conservative. So where is this "liberal bias" coming from? People who want to hear multiple viewpoints? Does not swallowing the single lure constitue some unfair bias? It really really bothers me the lack of critical thinking and analysis skills most americans seem to have. It seems that most people are unable to tell that the way something is said to you, especially from a expert, or figure of authority has more to do with how you feel and react to it than the actual information itself. I can't stand TV news anymore because thats all I can see, a tiny little nugget of information wrapped up in a blanket of opinions and spin. I could probably write about this for hours, but I have a meeting to go to, so consider yourselves spared
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    OMG!!, it's worse here in the U.S. than in China!

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    Very good view. I wonder, though, how many who discredit this kind of stuff just because of the URL or the title.

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    I wonder, who here is actually thinking of this as a drive towards fascism? Not the link, that has some of the best information that I've heard/seen in a long time, and makes me almost sad to be an American. The information that the American people are not aware of or don't care to seek out is staggering, they revel in CNN/MSNBC, and other giant news corps, without pursuing the information themselves. How many American's are looking for a change in the way media spins and revels on idiotic topics for countless days? My case in point, Anna Nicole Smith. Her death was the centre piece of news for well over 2 weeks. And this just wasn't on TV, but in all of the newspapers as well. Giant Headlines, multiple 1st page articles on this. But there are hundreds dying of AIDS and in Darfur, not to mention the poverty, inner city struggles and violence, rising split between all levels of monetary income classes, lacking educational funds, and not to mention that there are millions of Americans, QUALIFIED Americans that don't have healthcare. And yet these are seldom heard of....Hmm

    I guess that old saying is true "Seen but not heard, heard but not paid attention to."

    And this goes way beyong America. I don't wanna come off as an American elite or whatever, but once the "greatest nation on Earth" falls, who is next and what is going to happen? There needs to be a major revolution of social classes, and on media...

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    great movie!

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    no one cares about anything of importance these days.

    Good film

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