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    Alla Prima - Schmid

    Hey I was looking at books to get for my bday, namely about oil painting, and this book seems to keep popping up. It's $100 au though, and I guess I could get 2 or 3 books for that price. I spent the same amount on 6 tubes of oils, linseed oil, turps and some brushes to put that price in perspective... So what I want to know is, is it really worth the price? What kind of subjects are covered in it? Composition, colour theory, palettes, techniques etc? What have other people thought of it? Is it all it's cracked up to be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by waronmars
    Is it all it's cracked up to be?
    yes.

    But I am a firm believer that you can not put a price on knowledge.
    If you think this book will have information applicable to what you do,
    $100 is nothing compared to the knowledge you will carry with you for the rest of your life.

    You can buy it in the USA for $65 usd.
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Alla-prima-art-b...QQcmdZViewItem

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    I think the author would sell even more books if they provided a sample. It's a very good book but it's not a how-to book. There are only a handful of shots of his process. With that said, the information in it is very valuable. The section on edges and the importance of squinting helped me quite a bit. The section on color was a little advanced for myself and if you're a beginner I wouldn't use Schmid's exact palette. I feel there are too many colors but he even states to use as few colors as needed. Here's a chapter list if that's at all helpful to you:

    Introduction
    Chapter 1 - Good Ideas and Free Advice
    Chapter 2 - Direct Painting
    Chapter 3 - Starting
    Chapter 4 - Drawing
    Chapter 5 - Values
    Chapter 6 - Edges
    Chapter 7 - Color and Light
    Chapter 8 - Composition
    Chapter 9 - Technique
    Chapter 10 - The Magic

    oh, you can buy the softcover directly from Schmid for $49.95. That's a bargain. http://www.richardschmid.com/book.html

    --Roger

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    is it really worth the price?
    yes

    What kind of subjects are covered in it? Composition, colour theory, palettes, techniques etc?
    yes

    Is it all it's cracked up to be?
    yes

    hope that helps

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    What you didn't trust me when I told you?

    BUY IT. Best $60 bucks I ever spent.
    Get it from his website, $50 plus 10 shipping (maybe not international) - maybe he gets more money too!

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    Don't worry Tom, I trust you. I just don't have 60 USD.

    Would love to get my hands on this book, I've been meaning to delve into oil painting for a while. Guess I'll need to start saving up.

    Brendan Noeth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan N
    Don't worry Tom, I trust you. I just don't have 60 USD.

    Would love to get my hands on this book, I've been meaning to delve into oil painting for a while. Guess I'll need to start saving up.
    donate blood...or other bodily fluids if you need too...

    definitely worth every drop

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    Ok, I can only speak for myself here but, this is the one book that I totally love.
    It has straight forward information, covers all the topics you were asking about and has lovely paintings to follow it with.
    It's really high quality, almost worth the price just for the pictures itself :)

    Come to think of it, it's probably the only art book I read cover to cover (which says more about me than the book thou ;)

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    Anyone want some liver? No? Going once, going twice...

    Brendan Noeth

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    If you want to go half way (pricewise) you can get "Oil painting secrets from a master" (worst title ever) by Linda Cautera. Also very straight forward. Cant compare it to Alla Prima, because i havent read it yet, but its helped me a lot. Some of the stuff is maybe a little TOO specific, but its def. worth the 24 buck i spent on it.

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    This is without a doubt my favorite oil painting book. It's very practical and written in plain english. He keeps breaking things down so that you can understand it. And keeps giving you different directions that you can approach... edges, values, colors, ect.

    While this is the best book you can get if your going to learn to oil paint on your own, it mostly concentrates on painting from life. Like the Andrew Loomis books, I only wish he was able to show us how to give us some insight to painting illustrative paintings as well (such as inventive landscapes and creatures and so on).

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    Hey!!

    Get it! It's absolutley worth it!
    But where do u look that it cost 100$ cant believe it!
    Go to the homepage of Richard Schmid!
    U can get it ther 49 + 10$ shipping cost.
    here's the link.
    http://www.richardschmid.com/book.html

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    Funny - I was just thinking of getting this. Right now I'm not really interested in using oils but more in gouache, watercolours etc. But it seems this book is valuable more because of it's general painting advice than for its specific advice on painting with oils (please DO correct me if I'm guessing wrong).

    Sometimes though, people get really enthousiastic by a book also because they like the author (or rather the paintings) so much. I'm a big fan of painterly paintings and often like plein air painters but I found I really don't warm to Schmid's work. Without going into a discussion of why that is, or why I should like him or why his work is the best thing since school uniforms; could somebody tell/confirm me the book is so good purely based on it's text and insights in painting? Any specifics? Thanks a lot.

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    The paintings make it a nice book to look at, but the text is why I always recommend it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tensai
    Funny - I was just thinking of getting this. Right now I'm not really interested in using oils but more in gouache, watercolours etc. But it seems this book is valuable more because of it's general painting advice than for its specific advice on painting with oils (please DO correct me if I'm guessing wrong).

    Sometimes though, people get really enthousiastic by a book also because they like the author (or rather the paintings) so much. I'm a big fan of painterly paintings and often like plein air painters but I found I really don't warm to Schmid's work. Without going into a discussion of why that is, or why I should like him or why his work is the best thing since school uniforms; could somebody tell/confirm me the book is so good purely based on it's text and insights in painting? Any specifics? Thanks a lot.
    You're right. It's not just for oil painters. Here's a excerpt from the chapter on Values page 83 (because I just like to type)

    Squinting
    Learn this and you're home free! It is one of the most valuable skills you can have. Why? Because your most fundamental technical problem in "getting it right" is to simplify what you see. The most direct way to do that is by partly closing your eyes when you look at your subject. Squint down until most detail disappears and what you are looking at can be grasped as a few simple coherent shapes. When I look at paintings by artists such as Sorolla, or Cecilia Beaux, or Zorn, it is still sometimes hard for me to realize that what I am seeing is what they saw with their eyes half-shut! They knew how to make things simple! ... To illustrate: Hold this book at arm's length, look at the text, and slowly close your eyes until the paragraphs form gray rectangles on the page -- now you have simplified, and you can paint the page without doing the individual words and letters...

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    100 bucks is nothing for that book. 65 bucks is stealing it. Great book, should be in any serious painter's collection.

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    The book has excellant advice and great pics.

    He also has DVDs out (demos and discussion on landscape painting). They are very pricey at $75 each.
    I own two of them though. I love his paintings and no art school education so feel that they are well worth it for me.

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    dave, cheers. roger, appreciated.
    it's on it's way...

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    Hehe yeah I ordered it last night from Schmid's website, thanks alot for the insights guys! Oh and I found it on an Australian website but it cost $20 au more than it would to ship it from the US! Good joke!

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    I'm ordering this right now from Schmid's site too. Thanks for the link and the "reviews" in this thread! Eeeee! I can't wait; I loooove new art bewkz!


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    liver?! anybody whannha liver?!

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    I ordered it last week, can't wait to get it. I just hope it doesn't get stuck for weeks in the mail system like so many books i order from the US.

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