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    Light and Color Experiments >>Updated.3.20<<

    Hello all, I'm starting a new thread dedicated specifically to light and color experiments (obviously the reason for the title). I can paint pretty well traditionally,so I've recently been messing around with applying my strokes and color mixing techniques that I use with real paint digitally. I'm starting to get the hang of it...I think

    Here's a guy I painted using photoshop, painting at 25% the size, about an hour, ref used.
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    I need to be more adventurous with my color.... but here's the original.


    I think I like the b&w version better. I was actually surprised how well my values worked after I painted using color...
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    here's what they look like at 100%
    I love how messy they look!
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    I'll try and update this bad boy often.



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    try using a lot of complimentary colors. how about just using a big brush?

    I'm looking for work!
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    great work Oskar, love the painterly work.
    If you have painter on your machine, i can recommend you to use -pen, thick and thin, using 80 percent opacity or so. Its very intuitive and great for this type of work.
    Im subscribing to this, can wait to see more =)

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    i love the nose, but the lips look off in placement and in color. they just dont mix with the rest of the piece as well.

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    nice experiment!
    looking forward to see what you come up with!

    please share your thoughts and stuff about them, it would be appriciated!

    cheers!


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    More, more, more...
    It's nice to see you around here again.

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    Shidoken Very good suggestion, for some reason I hadn't thought about that.

    AlexC I have painter and I'll be working in painter as well. Thanks for the tip.

    adam Yeah I know about the mouth. I wasn't to concerned about the drawing itself at first and it shows. I should be careful with that. I think I just might go back in and fix that lip.

    Hurri Thanks for checkin in. Every time you update your sketchbook I try and stop by. Great work btw.

    As far as thoughts go....hmmm....well one thing I figured out in photoshop is that using the regular round brush doesnt work for me right off the bat, cuz I have the option to reduce the pressure and therefore I get these transparent unconfident strokes that dont look right. So after a lot of messing around with brushes, I simply just tweaked the round brush and made it 100% opaque, the pressure is set to size, and I added wet edges to them.
    This forces me to put the correct stroke with confidence(Which is essential for me). I figured out with this technique that if I reduce the opacity to something like 80% or so, I get these great transparent variating colors and textures that I tend to get with Acrylics.
    One other thing I have to keep reminding myself to do is to put down the strokes confidently, whether I think its the correct stroke or not. If I dont, the edges look messy. (guilty... )

    Now about color. I work with HSB in my color window because it lets me be more accurate with my color choices. I was reading a book the other day on color and it said to put color in your shadows, that way there is interest in your finished painting. So I tried that with this exercise. By doing this I figured that once I get the correct value I want per stroke I can just saturate that sucker and still put it down and in the end I get a better result than if I would have gone the safe route and chosen a less desaturated color (did that make sense?).

    Another thing I constantly remind myself to do is to put a lot of saturation of color in the transition from core shadow to light. That section usually has more texture and color so I exaggerate it.
    Something I tried on another piece, is using a lot of textured brushes set to different opacities in the beginning just to get color and texture variation right off the bat. A lot of the time when I'm painting and "mixing color" it can be difficult to choose the right color from the swatches palette (so i rarely use it). By putting a lot of colors and texture down in the beginning I can simply pick from those colors as I paint and tweak as I go using the trusty HSB color window. Something else I'll try is to paint one color in section(lets say the red of the nose) and right next to it when I paint my next stroke with its appropriate value I'll completely choose a different color(lets say under the nose)or at least a color that exaggerates what's already there. I'm pretty surprised at how often it works, because color doesn't matter as long as value works.

    Wow, that was long!

    Bojee: Thanks

    Jens: You're absolutely right. I'll work on it, but the one thing I'm actually kind of proud of is that those weird colors worked. Well at least they worked as far as value goes. But you're right they dont look so great. I'll work on it...

    Just so I dont post without a pic, here's something I did with acrylic (and a little bit of ink) on watercolor paper.
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    Nos vemos despues

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    "Nos vemos despues" = "We see ourselves later"?

    I like the colour use on the monk. Oversaturated? Perhaps, but you said you wanted to be more adventurous, right?

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    Wow I.Was.Ink, I really like your work, that last painting is awesome! Makes me wanna try some traditional paints too.. feel pretty insecure about it tho. Keep it up man

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    this last one is just incredible. lovely colors. Will def. follow this book!
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    Orbital: It means we'll see each other later. It's like sayin cya later in spanish.

    Coen:Thanks. You should give it a try. If you never try you'll never know if you can do it or not. If you need any tips or if u got any questions. Let me know.

    Tigermilk:Thanks

    Here's another one. Decided to use different brushes for different surfaces ( I love me some texture!!!)

    About an hour and a half, ref used, worked at 25% the original size.
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    closeup @ 100%
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    thanks for stoppin by
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    Damn that's an awesome piece. Love the atmosphere. I don't really have any particular questions, I'm just not sure how to get started cause I don't know much about it, don't even know what medium I will use (oils, gouache, whatever). Maybe I should take a look at a book on the subject or something.

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    Here's another experiment. This time concentrating on getting the color "right".
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    *rant*
    One thing that bugs me a lot is that images will look fine in photoshop, but when I save them to jpegs(and show them on the net) the color gets all out of wack. I was reading on this and its due to the embedded color profiles set in photoshop, the bad thing about it is that web browsers don't support this feature (embedded color profiles) so I have to constantly keep messing with the pic to get the colors to come close. But they're still not the same.....which is irritating. pld: Anyone know how to fix this?
    /rant

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