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    tons of improvement here, what can i say except keep it up!

    you might also want to do some value studies and work on shading and hatching. will come in handy later


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    algenpfleger, thanks a bunch! I do those studies you suggest, but I've only had time for sketches these days, so that's all I can show at the moment!

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    Wow, Jazz. Your stuff from imagination is looking better and better. And as for your one page of from-life gestures -- don't worry that all you can get is the "essence" -- that's most of the point. You're doing that to learn how people move, so you can put life into your figures. I think you're doing well, though, because it's really shown in your out-of-the-head stuff. Your anatomy seems to have gotten a lot better, too. Now, the only things that seem to be lagging behind are your faces (I know they're hard -- probably the hardest part of a person) and your line quality. I used to be super-sketchy myself -- going over and over a line to kinda knead it into shape -- until I made a conscious effort to draw more slowly, more gently, and only really put down the line when I was sure about it. I still fall back to my old habits sometimes -- it's hard to break. But try to pay a little more attention to your lines. Your pictures deserve it.

    I'm looking forward to your next update, Jazz! Get on it!
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    Thank you very much, funfetus! Yes, I'm having lots of trouble with faces and lines. Sometimes I'm just rushing through everything because I have to work or tend to someone in my life. I'll keep trying to smooth things out though. I'm so glad the anatomy is getting better though!

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    That all being said, I confess that I don't feel like I'm really getting anywhere. Not doing my best, not able to put enough energy into what I try. I look online and see that even my old 24-comic isn't working for me. My name brings up a newspaper. Though I'm glad cause it's a picture I made. I just wish I could make more lively things.

    I'm thinking, by the end of this year, if *I* don't feel the improvement beyond what everyone else sees and feels, I'm giving up drawing. I'll just stick to the computer job and classes I've put myself into. I can't seem to break past that line that tells me I'm "good, not great, and not getting better". I'm really discouraged now, and I don't see any hope for real improvement. I'm trapped, too, plus everywhere I try to draw, I'm physically uncomfortable.

    Anyway, my thoughts might stem from the week I had. I would rather be doing art, but I had to work and serve people who were just there to give me angry lumps on my neck. Here's all I got for this week because of the stress:

    My character...just failing at heads.
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    It was all about that head.
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    A most unfinished Fanart...all about the face
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    Just shaped faces
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    I have no idea why I did this, but I don't like how I made his mouth. It doesn't feel right with the rest of this.
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    I was proud of this picture at the time. I did them from imagination.
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    You're improving, Jazz! You're just not finishing stuff!
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    Let's see some stuff brought to "finish".

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    ;_; I'll try, alesoun. Thank you! *hugs* I think I'm just in a really weird crisis moment thing... Can't seem to finish stuff...and I wanted to do that CHOW. >_< I don't know what to do to drive myself.

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    You still have time for the chow if you're not working tomorrow,- do what you can! Ima gonna look for it!

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    Crap!! I should've done it then, alesoun! >_< I didn't give myself time like I should! I'm get it sooner or later. Time Management. I'm still having to learn! ;_;

    How about I make a vow to just do one CHOW very soon? Even if I don't complete it. >_< It's just that laptop. UGH!! Widescreen SUCKS.

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    I guess work kept me challenged, for whenever I drew, it was scribbles of nothing! I detest those scribbles. I'll show just four things, because they're the only things I did a little work on.

    I worked on lines to see how much I needed to work on STRAIGHT lines. It's obvious:
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    This is a weird on, and if symbolic it's still over my head. But I'll be using it for a challenge of my own on DeviantArt.
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    These thumbnails are for a request for another artist. Her fan character has a long tentacle on her head. I've been trying to work on her pose. She's supposed to be on a cliff looking down at a village. The moon behind her, etc. etc. Well, I need to figure out the angle at which the camera as watching her. I don't want her face directly staring at it.
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    Problem is, I just can get the pose to not be stiff and...posed. I want it more natural. >_<
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    This is the first marker drawing in a while that I worked harder on, and finished. I only have a few Tria markers, and one stopped working at her neck. Next time I'll show all of her! I wanted her cutesy some, and a bit real with her body.
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    See you guys!

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    so terribly slight nudity

    This past week was disappointing. I said that to everyone who asked and who didn't. Gah, it's hard NOT to rely on the less reliable when there are few good options to get around. But I guess when worse comes to worst (or whatever the phrase is), a cab CAN be a friend. -_-

    Anyway, since that part was one thing wrong with the week, some work being another, I was having a lot of trouble drawing stuff and finishing things. In fact, what I completed were just very small sketches. I'm surprised though! I do have a lot to show, so that's good!

    I'll mention my DeviantArt finding below these

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    Some funky style idea thing.
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    I attempted to draw the young male villain that's supposed to be in my experimental comic. I got distracted by tasks and didn't want to do the hands.
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    Really bad attempt to draw and shade an egg with my pen. Oh!! My lines!! ;_;
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    This was a nicer thing I made. I wish I had more ideas in my head to make more variations, but this all I came up with.
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    This character is from the user whisper_w. I miss seein' her. I forgot how she looked though, so I'm certain I messed up terribly in some places. I want to vary the lips and...her breasts are so big there! lol!
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    So THIS is my attempt to put people together in a pic! Well, gestures, anyway.
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    Two young enemies (and a third despised face) in my comic that hasn't begun. I wasn't really happy with this, but I like their expressions.
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    I slipped this crap in, but I don't mind showing how time and work can bring me down to lows and up to highs. I had troubles that day, I'm assuming.
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    Just some pose of a snake girl. Kinda like them bunny girls but...snakey!!
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    Thel, one of the main heroes from "the comic". Gah! Yes, I had to pick THAT week to practice drawing guys! XD Still need to capture their feet.
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    ...This is...hard to explain. I was just playing with lines and this creature popped up. I drew her stance funny though, so I put those funky little meanies there to scold me and her. I dunno.
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    Oh yeah! My DA finding: On a popular artist's journal, the artist was responding to somebody about CA. He said something along the lines of, "They're elitists and it's like you have to *get in* there to be known." I just found it funny for him to say that, because um...it's not like Yerf or anything around here. Sheesh! I wonder if he's worried that someone might actually notice a flaw in his finished drawings?

    And if he saw my works, I mean come ON! If it were about getting in, I don't think anybody would have a problem if they're dedicated enough. Even though sometimes I feel like I'm not.

    Eh, well, I feel ignored at times, but that's anywhere. I still love this place to death.
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    wow you have improved so much from when you started, all of your life drawings and sketches are great, some of digital stuff is really really good, like that girls face at the very start, thanks for commenting in my sb btw

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    Trust me Jazz, whatever you may think, you're SO getting better. That marker drawing looks GREAT! I think you leveled up. And I can really see the improvement in your understanding of the human figure. You do show a lot of inconsistency -- I don't know if it's because you're rushing on a lot of these, or what. But I know you have the ability.

    I see that you're really digging into head construction -- or at least that's what it looks like. Looks like you're starting to figure out the eyes/brow/bridge of nose area which is so treacherous. I'm kinda rethinking my approach to the head right now myself. It's difficult stuff, but it's worth it.

    Don't you DARE think of quitting. Yeah, drawing is really hard. Sometimes it feels like you're not getting anywhere. And it sounds like you have some stuff going on in your personal life that's making it hard to put in the time you want. I understand. You can take a break, if you need to (though I'd really advise against it -- rust sets in quick), but you BETTER COME BACK!

    Take care, Jazz. Keep drawing!
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    Hi! Happy Spring!

    Grundo, thank you so much for visiting too! I'm happy that you're seeing progress in my work so far! Hopefully I'll keep it going. I'm trying very hard with the work I'm doing.

    Funfetus, I'm so grateful that you're here, because you're always here for me, always with encouragement and that extra push when I need it most! Definitely I need it now!! I'll keep working my hardest to improve. Some days I have to rush my practice because I'm heavier at work than other days. Sometimes my mind shuts down from work, and I have more time to draw because that's all I can think of doing without feeling guilty.

    So unfortunately, I don't have a set comfortable place and time that's my own. It's either dedicated to work or my best friend, since we're so close yet so far away. I'm probably going to set out some art time for myself soon enough, when I just feel like I'm shutting down again.

    And oh!! That face...yes, the eyebrows and the bridge and eyes...those are SO tough to do!! I have yet to practice with references, but when I do that might give me even more insight on what I'm attempting!!

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    I only have one piccy...is it one? Yeah, because I forgot to scan the other. Just another black and white. Maybe I'll show a second one. They're both cartoony and styled up a tad. It's been one of those weeks again! Heh.

    I tried turning my head in that nutzoid angle I got hers on. It's an oops on my part! A bit TOO quirky there!
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    This is so boring to me, but just profile head practice.
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    Hey, Jazz. I'm really glad that my posts help you. I want to see you succeed!

    I'm really impressed with the poses that you get in your work from imagination. That first picture is a really complicated pose, and I think you nailed it. Like I mentioned before, the linework could use some more attention, but the basic drawing is very solid. (Maybe work on your feet a bit, though.) As for the tilt to the head, it may be a bit exaggerated, but it doesn't look weird, so I think it's okay.

    I drew you a little example about the brow/eyes/nose area. I hope it helps. The main things to notice are that the head is 5 eyes wide when viewed from the front. However, right about at the outside corners of the eyes, there's a sharp angle where the forehead turns back to form the side of the head. The cheekbones continue to extend outward a bit before turning back. So the FRONT of the face is really only 3 eyes wide. When you turn the head to a 3/4 view, the far eye will extend all the way to the edge, because the portion of head that's past that is turned at such an angle. I also find it easier to place the eyes in a 3/4 view if I draw them in before I draw the nose. You may have to draw the bridge of the nose over the far eye a bit, but that's okay. I hope this wasn't too confusing.
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    Oh, it does make sense, funfetus!! Actually, when I went to look at the picture before, it wouldn't show up! So NOW I see it, and it makes sense to me! Thanks so much for showing me, too!! It's much easier for me to visualize.

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    So, a month and days went by, and I'm now finished at Co-op for the first term! Yaaaaay, no more Fort McMurray!! That is one cold place! It snowed last week for like...five days!!

    Anyway, during the last few weeks, my mind's been on finishing the term, and I couldn't draw stuff for a while in the last couple weeks. My mind had to be on computer, but now I really want to veer to more art-related work. I still feel trapped though, like I can't just LEAVE my courses like that. I need to find a way and I'm pretty well stumped.

    Here are some sketches I did, most in their original magenta hue. Well, maybe I'll get better later, since I'm now home. ...YAAAAAAY!!!!

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    It's too bad I didn't finish that "apparition" pic way back. Might've been an interesting tale! Ha ha! Gosh, these looks weird. She'd probably fall over with that upper girth.
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    I was playing with an awkward walking pose.
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    It's hard to make out with all the purple...let alone lines. It's that one picture I've been trying to work on. The guy is fighting some weird springy thing with...wings. I'm still trying to get a good pose and camera angle!
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    I never truly finish a picture with my characters in it. Shatare (left) and Karri (right) shouldn't even be nekkid, but I started nekkid. XD Anyway, just a friendly (or so it seems) hug from mother to uncomfy daughter.
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    I don't know what I was thinking, except this would be an "old" child, doing some sorta meditation or something.
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    This was for a friend. Though it's for fun, I was disappointed in the faces a bit. Still...they're rather hot. Characters aren't even mine but it's hard to tell right now.
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    I've seen this pose before, so I wanted to try it out. ...I'll work on it!
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    For my friend again. Jonathon is his name. The character actually is from Disney but is NOT named Jonathon. We just thought Jonathon suited him better...or didn't know. :3
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    Just trying a funky twist. That's when I just couldn't do anymore for the time being.
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    I forgot, I have a bunch of sketches from that class months ago. I wanted to show the rest, cuz I forgot how they look!!

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    I'm so tired and stressed about Dad. He had a stroke last week so THIS week things are just...a little overwhelming for me. Like they aren't any other day. But lately I've just been tired. Plus getting into a fight with my best friend...and ANOTHER one tonight...and school... Even not seeing replies on my last post is enough to slap me in the face, and that's nothing!

    Anyway, I'm sure I did more than this, but I don't feel like looking.

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    For my best friend...
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    I fear an old and hopeless critique from a great artist (as in "There's something wrong with THIS part and THAT part and I can't say anymore. ^^;; ") has allowed me to artistically doom my Ava character. I can't draw her nicely, no matter what I try.
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    I just drew that out of nowhere.
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    Gesture of a man at the hospital today. He and his lady were friendly.
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    Gesture of my Mom at the hospital...listening to the man and his lady.
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    Fan art of a character for my best friend. I used markers and never finished it. I worked on it for about an hour last night, but it was the WRONG hour. ;_;
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    Knew I forgot one! I did this at the hospital, too. I don't know who it is, but I think I like his moxxy...moxxie? Whatever.
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