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    Cheap Art Offers or the ethics of the job section

    I like to keep an eye on the job section and lately there has been quite a few posts in the ARTISTS LOOKING FOR WORK! section by artists offering to do commissions for 3-15$ a piece. Of course, at that price we're not talkin about Spectrum caliber stuff.

    I am a bit at loss with what to do with those posts. I was thinking maybe I should contact these artists and try to explain that they are actually hurting themselves and other artists but I'm not sure. So far I have only monitored the posts (to make sure nothing turns ugly if other artists get offended by the offers.)

    I haven't seen a problem so far but this kind of posting seems to be gaining in popularity (maybe someone listed CA somewhere as a good place to get jobs.)

    What do you guys think?
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    I don't see where anything needs to be done about it. These are unprofessional jobs that will have unprofessional artists working on them. You're not going to see a whole lot of top notch jobs in that section, as most companies already have people to work with, or know enough people to find someone they need.

    I think that section is good for helping artists get their foot in the door, or making some contacts. I've personally gotten a couple decent paying jobs on there, but nothing major. Like you say, most of it is crap.
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    I'm really of the mind that a client who hires an artist at $3 a drawing deserves what they get as much as the artist making the offer does, which is to mean that people should expect the price to reflect in some degree the quality they will recieve (on both sides). Not to mention that if we have a non-paying section, I don't see how it's right to kill threads that are next-to-non-paying
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    To use my all time favorite phrase... "It is what it is."
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    I think it is a good thing. Any artist who is willing to work for so little will produce terrible work, and any employeer hiring them will discover you get what you pay for. And thats always a good thing.
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    Any artist trying to run a business on such pricing will either go bankrupt in a hurry, increase their prices in self defense, or (less likely) find a way to make a living by churning out volumes of poor-quality work in a hurry. (But seeing as there isn't a significant market for zillions of small, crappy pieces of art, I doubt this is viable.) So one way or the other market forces should take care of them.

    While it appeals to me to encourage these artists to charge more for their work, particularly if they are selling the rights to the work, I can't think of a fair way to enforce them to charge more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qitsune
    These are offers done by artists, not job offers.
    DOH! Uhm...I was sleepy when I wrote that. Yeah that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seedling
    While it appeals to me to encourage these artists to charge more for their work, particularly if they are selling the rights to the work, I can't think of a fair way to enforce them to charge more.
    Ban them from CA!

    No, I'm just kidding. I have on occasion sold myself short on pro bono work, but these usually fall into the non-profit organization category, such as church groups or the local boy scout troop, soccer teams, what have you. In these instances, I crank out the same quality of work I would for say, a construction company looking for a new logo. However, since these types of groups are by nature low on funds, therefore, I make donations by providing low-cost or even pro bono art work.

    I'm in agreement in that if we have a spot for non-paying jobs, then work for next-to-non-paying jobs should be allowed to stay. However, is anyone should ever complain on how they got ripped and their hard work showed up in a magazine for the $15 they got paid, then they should be strung up by their thumbnails for being plain old dumb. By that same token, if any client that accepts these pieces ever complains that the work they shelled out $15 was of inferior quality, then they should be boiled in oil for being plain old cheap.

    I'll keep the pot on simmer.
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    OH SNAP $3 FOR A PIECE OF ART! I could've saved a fortune on illustrators.. and I call myself an Art Director. That's what I get for not making artists compete for wages
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    So you're saying pricing it that low is bad? My art isn't amazing and I'm not good at assuming prices on pictures so that's why I go so cheap. I don't want to overcharge. I see that a lot on Sheezyart. People who are next to stick-figures experienced ask for like $10 for a sketch.
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    ya get what you pay for. If they suck, maybe their work is only worth that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starami
    So you're saying pricing it that low is bad? My art isn't amazing and I'm not good at assuming prices on pictures so that's why I go so cheap. I don't want to overcharge. I see that a lot on Sheezyart. People who are next to stick-figures experienced ask for like $10 for a sketch.
    So, how's business? Are the firesale prices generating a flood of offers in your inbox?
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