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    Hi there!
    I've been painting this for about 10 hours and I've got to the point when you get "blind" for the painting.
    I would like sincere opinions and critiques on this, in order to help me improve this image.
    thanks!

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    Hey, that's quite nice! Just a couple nitpicks.

    The placement of the eye is off. The socket isn't deep enough in the head.

    Her arm is bending very strangely. The weirdness of the arm is made worse by the fact that you copped out on drawing her hands.

    The hair looks really stiff (unless you intended it to be that way). Maybe try drawing the general shape of the hair in before you go right to individual strands.

    Her neck also seems a little thick. It should probably bevel in a little deeper beneath her jawbone.

    I like it a lot, though, nitpicks aside. Good work!

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    little fixes

    Hey, thanx a lot Ryn!
    I though about what you've said and made some quick selection/transforming moves on my downres jgg copy of the image and I think they've worked really well.
    tomorrow I'll do it more carefuly on the psd.

    The hair is supposed to look like this, in fact. The idea was to make a "modern" stilish dreadlockish orange hair.

    as usual, any critics are still appreciated

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    Looks great!
    I agree about the neck the change looks better. I also agree about the hand. It is distracting I think.
    L ooks great though =)

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    hmm, ok. I will paint the hand on a new layer to see if it gets better
    any other suggestions?
    not only technical, but conceptual as well.

    thanx you both!

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    First of all, let me say I think those wings are gorgeous! And I like the way the wispy smoke wraps around her. Very lovely.

    Small nitpicks from me as well.. I like the dreadlock idea, but I duno if they quite look dreadlock-ish. I'm no dread expert, but maybe you could look at a few pics for a reference. The outline around the hand kinda bugs me, I would think that area would be shadowed by her body and would be a bit darker.

    But I think it's a great piece, keep on truckin'!

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    Wow, this is really beautiful, i love the way you did the light!
    I think the hair is fine the way it is, i have very thin dreads that end in curls, so the way you painted them looks perfectly naturaly to me.

    What strikes me as odd is her arm, the way its stetched out so straight that it twists below the elbow, im not too sure how to explain that. Maybe you could have her arm bent up slightly (barely repeating the curve of her back) as if 'caressing the light' with a bit of those light strands going through her fingers.

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    Hi!
    now I´ve made lots of fixes on it, then I felt like playing with color correction, fading and blending modes to enhance contrast (on a duplicate, of course).
    Tell me what you think of it!

    cheers!

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    Aaagh!! Too Dark! The lighting you've shown on previous posts was very nice, very fresh skinned and illuminated. Unless you're going for something darker and more ominous, I'd stick with what you had. My adice would be to cast a harder shadow, instead of darkening the skin tone overall. Hard light in fron, hard shadow on the back of your skin surfaces, with a clear distinction between the two.

    I think that's the only thing that would make me pipe up, other than to give you kudos for a very well rendered piece. The lighting is what piqued my interest in the first place so I had to say something.

    Oh, and the tear just looks out of place. My opinion.

    Cheers!

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    i think its pretty damn good for the most part.
    i would add more shadow toward the back of the hair.
    and a little on the wing behind the head.

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    the hair looks a bit weird or unnatural,
    but the all-in-all feel in this one is great. cool colors and great mood!

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    Hmm, right. Is too dark indeed.
    Lucky me I always make copies when I try something like this
    I like it a bit darken then before, but this is really too much.

    The hair is not supposed to look natural or regular. But maybe my attempt of making thin dreads has failed because no one is reading like this (only Steph, because she has these.

    Thank you all! I'll get back some steps on the color and finish up this thing!

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    If the far leg were cocked up a bit so that we could see it, there would instantly be more depth and interest in the figure (not that it's not interesting already).

    It's coming along nicely.

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    It looks like you treated the hair differently than you did everything else! It has amuch harder look to it than do the feathers which theoretically, would be even harder than dreads.

    def. gotta brighten up that right side.

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    The hair is too evenly highlighted. I like the tear though. Adds an element of emotion and interest to an otherwise straightforward piece. Everybody is doing demon chicks out the wazoo, but the tear almost adds a human element. Makes you wonder why she is crying, and I think it makes the piece stand apart from the others. I would say that the hair would tend to be darker away from the light source. The hair stands off where it meets the wing, if they occupied nearly the same space, they would not be so differently highlighted. If you tone down the back of her head just a little more, to account for the light source not reaching around the curvature of her skull, it would make all the difference and the hair wouldnt look so pasted on. Since there obviously is no light source behind her, no sides facing the rear will reflect light. I hope that isnt too unclear. After that, I would say its done. The hair is really the only thing that stands out as being out of place. I can see what you are trying to do and I think it will be freakin cool when you tweake it a little.
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    Ok, I've gone back to my brighter version of the image. It was better, indeed.

    brianhammer and Ian Mack: Now that you specified what was wrong with the hair I could finally understand and fix it.
    brian, the idea on making a non-regular hair and the tear was exacly to add this human element you said. While painting this I've tried to let the image tell its story, although I had none when I started.
    I've tried to reach the feeling of an angel that had her limited time as a human young girl on earth being claimed back to wherever she was from.

    Ok, I know this isn't original at all.

    Here you go an update of it
    Thanks!

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    That is absolutely stunning. I love the lighting, the colors and the compostion. Great job.

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    a beautiful image, very evocative, but i think the flow of lines and action-within-repose could be strengthened. the hair does not react to the apparent flow of the atmosphere moving her garments, and the figure's pose is very graceful but quite vertical, causing a "full stop" for the eye at the right of the figure. i did a fast paintover to illustrate what i think would strengthen these less successful aspects:
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    i put a small forward lean to the figure, as if it's responding to the airstream, allowed the hair to react and extend into the wings a bit, which i think helps unify the wings and figure somewhat as well as reinforcing the action lines, and added a suggestion of a subtle hand gesture, something i think is needed to complete the figure. i also incorporated dogfood's suggestion, which i think helps the figure occupy the space more succcessfully.

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    Hi Masque!
    nice suggestions. I really like the forward lean and the position of the hand.
    Don't know if i'm sticking with the left leg though. At least on this position, maybe.

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    A new update, and I think is done now!

    thank you all people. Every single comment was REALLY helpful here.
    No doubt I wouldn't be able to get to this stage if it wasn't for you!

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    That looks pretty amazing, looks like u've had a long road with all the helpful comments these folks have made.

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    I think the image has been done very well.

    Saying that, I do have a couple of minor nitpicks. Her arm now seems to be inside part of one of her buttocks, which I find slightly offputting. I also feel that the red on the top-left corner of the image should be toned down. When I look at the picture, the red there distracts my eye from where it should be focusing. It may be worth making that area darker and seeing if it helps the flow of the image.

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