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    Updated March 22: Monkey King Scene 1 & 2 Finished, Scene 3 New Sketches

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    Hi people,
    Im starting this thread for my junior thesis project. We were assigned to do 4-5 illustrations that involves "location as character", we could pick any book we like. I choose The Journey to the West because there are alot of cool scenes that i think would be really fun to illustrate.
    Here is the first scene im doing. The monkey king is at the gates of the underworld, bout to go in and cause some trouble.

    I did alot of sketches and finally settled with this one, i added some base color and lighting to see how it would look. the characters (monkey king and the 2guards) are not colored yet.

    should i make the guards bigger...? shud i curve the top corners of the door a bit?
    any comments are welcomed, composition, color, lighting etcetc. or just tips if u have done a similar scene
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    here are the 2 first sketches and some character studies.
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    Great layout and the base colors are good too. The only thing I´d recommend for now is to increase the tilt of the whole picture. Take a point of view from behins and below the monkey king. To show the guards looming over him and the even bigger door behind them to enhance the feeling of how uneven the odds seem to be. we know sun-hou-tzu(?) will emerge victorious but we don´t want ti to seem to easy, neh?

    I´ll include a real fast shot on what I mean. Just for ideas. If you take it up you should however widen the borders of the pic to show a bit more of the location. And the monkey kings pose should express more "attitude". Your poses speack of serenity. A trait I´ve almost never found in the stories of the monkey king. To me he allways seemed hot headed and adventerous. Plus he´s about to enter hell. There should be the promise of "hellish" action. All tips IMHO.

    Hope that helps.
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    damn i really like the quick sketch u did...
    how do i include the light source tho? cause i really like the statue i did thats holding the bowl of fire.
    ill doodle something up to see if anything works.
    ur right about the current sketch i have tho. it seems so peaceful, looks likes he gonna go in to have high tea or something

    and when u said widen the boarders, did u mean for the sketch u did as well?
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    Man I really like those sketches.

    I agree that it looks peaceful and the best way to change it without changing the figures would be to go to more dramatic colours. Use contrast to make the guy and the doors polar opposites so that they are 'confronting' each other.

    BBwolf's quick draw was a good idea. Perhaps you can use the skew in pshop? I like how you are piecing things together...I'm going to have to use that approach sometime.
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    Ian Mack is right that more opposing colors prolly would help with the original sketch.


    I tried to give a second sketch a more wide angle. That´s what I meant with widening the borders of the picture. I think it would be a good approach but am not quiet happy thou. It seems I grace the limit of my perspective abilities. Calls for more research. Can´t push the thing aside thou.
    In addition I thought it would be a good idea if the guardds cross their weapons in front of the monkey king. They´re trying to deny him entrance, don´t they. This would illustrate the fact better.

    I think I´ll try to give the thing an own whirl just for the fun of it. *bah* who am I kidding. I have too much work at my hands allready.

    Btw, I am very happy that you found my advice helpfull. You shouldn´t however forget about the initial task of "location as character".
    Better check back with your teachers before maybe going too far in a different direction. I am anxious to see your next steps.


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    Ian: thats a great idea. im gonna have the eyes of the guards glow green and the monkey king is gonna have a red cape... thanks!

    bbwolf: im glad uve taken an interest in my project. im currently redrawing the scene, it looks something like my colored sketch but a more pushed perspective like u mentioned in ur first post. i also made the guards larger like in ur first sketch, and i "combined" them with the sculpture. the idea is so that they look like sculptures but i want the viewer to get the feeling that they might come alive any second.

    ur second sketch is even cooler. but this has to be part of a seris, my teacher mentioned that if i push the perspective too much on a single one, it might not fit well into the seris.

    in the end im aimming to have 4 peices in the gallery by may. (5 if i learn how to work faster)
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    This is looking really good. Who's class are you in?

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    here is the latest sketch (thanks so much for the idea bbwolf!), i think im gonna settle with this one and start focusing on color. i know after reading more comments ill want to change stuff again but i just dont ahve the time to, i found out these are due end of march... so i gotta start cranking them out.
    the color scheme is gonna be pretty much the same as the first one, the guards are gonna be stone.
    and here is the second scene im doing (actually the last scene of the seris).

    the monkey pissed off too many gods and they teamed up with buddha and trapped him under a mountain that is made from buddha's palm... this is pretty close to what i was hoping for, but ill probably make the monkey alot larger and push the perspective a little bit more because right now it looks too peaceful again
    elwell: im in stan matucci's class. why? are u in sva too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koncept
    elwell: im in stan matucci's class. why? are u in sva too?
    In a manner of speaking . I took Stanley's class a long, long time ago. Now I teach painting there.

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    here is how the peice is going...
    things i still have to do:
    -paint the monkey. i might add a flowing red cape that blows to the left to break up the symmetry of the piece
    -clean up the fire (right now its just sketchily painted to see how it would look)
    -add another layer of bright highlight to the metal parts of the painting
    -add reflected light in the area around the glowing green eyes
    and lastly ill need to go in and tiddy some edges and sharpen some areas, but before i do that id like to get some crit on it.


    does the pose of the monkey king still seem too "nice"? (hes suppose to be real bad ass)
    thanks!

    elwell: what class do u teach? is there a digital painting class?
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    I'm really impressed by this. You did a great job with the dramatic angle and the light source. The amount of detail on the two guards is really nice.
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    Very very VERY COOL. Really great progress and improvement on the whole piece. I could pour sugar on ya for some time but unfortunatly I dont have it right now. I´ll drop by again later.


    The idea with the cape for the monkey king is good. Do that. But yes the pose isn´t looking badass.
    He doesn´t look like he´s going to jump into "Monkey King supercool Action" Modus any second now.
    The pose lacks tension. Take a broomstick and try some poses in front of a full length mirror and get somebody to take photographs.

    I´ll be back. Keep ub the good work.

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