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    again, great work Noon Thirty said it all.
    as for shadows in perspective the only thing I can say is have a go. It definitely took me several goes before I began to understand it, and I still having problems using it.


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    September 28th

    Hi All,
    I gotta post this quickly...I am editing some footage my crew and I shot last night for project greenlight. I will post some quick drawings I did throughout the weekend...I have been drawing and painting everyday and I just wanted to let everyone know that I read all your responses and I will reply in detail tomorrow. Here are some scanned in images (I will post my paintings, etc... from the weekend tomorrow).

    This first one was done in 5 minutes...I wanted to stretch that part of my brain.

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    This one was done in about 45 seconds of a man sitting on a side rail thing at the train station. I will post more later...thanks.

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    great job, i love the guy chillin on the railing that looks like quality study. your positive enthusiasim is contaigious.

    -killing

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    WOW---ok first off I am floored by the positive responses I have been getting.

    Noon 30 - Wow thanks so much for that encouragement. It is great to have someone around to encourage you because I can only draw silly things like cubes and trees right now to learn the basics so it can be a little frustrating...and you are right about seeing the amazing artists on here hehe...although I will say that I am the type of person who sees someone with a whole bunch of skill and it just drives me harder till I can attain their level. And there is always someone better so that's what keeps me going. Also...that is definitely a good call on not "busting on your own material". You are right...I shouldn't minimize it. I should learn from it but not dog it. Again thanks so much for the encouragement...3 weeks and still going strong haha.

    Gekitsu - Thanks for the ever constant encouragment. I am your student and your cubes have taught me well hehe ... and you are exactly right...I am going to practice till I own Jon Foster, and till Justin Sweet says, "Man that guy is good". That is...unless my hands get chopped off or something. That's up to God though. Hehe...thanks again for the encouragement.

    Killing.People - Wow thanks so much for going the extra mile and helping me out...I know it's a pain to get the links for all those pictures and stuff like that but I want you to know that it is helping TREMENDOUSLY...I am really benefiting from your input. BTW...I love the portrait that you have as your avatar right now...the colors are awesome. Thanks again.

    Dark_Crystal - Thanks for always keeping up with me and for dropping me tips. It's also good to know that someone else struggles with perspective as well. Thanks for all your encouragement.

    ...sorry for the delayed posting...I have been editing a short film together for days on end...man I am beat...but of course I found time for drawing and painting hehe. I bought a bunch of new supplies too today so I can have more options when sketching (2b-8b, etc...). Here is a medicine bottle that I painted on my wacom in painter 7...I will post more tomorrow as well.
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    Hey Everybody...just wanted to post these sketches up...I wanted to do more of that "quick sketching technique" to try to learn what shapes make up everything and also to quickly look at the light and just try to duplicate it. The first one was in the subway while I was waiting for a train (my wife was sitting in front of me) I don't know how long it took me...probably like 15 minutes maybe less I can't remember...the second one was done in literally like 30 seconds...The guy was a little husky that's why the shapes look like that and he was reading the paper. I am just gonna leave my medicine bottle painting up cause that's only been posted for a little while.

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    Hi Everyone,
    If you didn't see my last post(s) on www.conceptart.org then I will bring you up to speed. Basically I have been inspired by the art produced and the work ethic of Jon Foster, Andrew Jones, Jason Manley, and my brother "Smeagol71" (among many others) and have decided to learn how to paint (primarily digitally). I am starting from rock bottom and I am going to paint at least one painting and do at least one sketch every day...probably two on the weekends. The order you see them in is the order that I am painting and/or sketching them...every day starting on 9/15/02. I am bearing my soul to everyone. I will post everything I do...whether it is awful or not. Most of the paintings and sketches, in the beginning, are going to look like crap but hopefully over the days/weeks/months/years they will start to get better. I have no formal art training but have signed up for classes this semester. I have a passion to paint and welcome any encouragement or critique that you want to give. Any feedback you want to give me you can leave in the threads I or just email me.
    Thanks
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    Hey, I'm in a similar situation (beginner, but very eager to learn) and I'd love to see your images.. only they won't load

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    Franz: Hey thanks for checking out my images...sorry they weren't loading for you. I have them uploaded to an image hosting website and for some reason that website goes down for like 15-30 minutes on some days. I think they might be restarting the server or something. Everything was working for me when I logged on this morning so I guess everything is ok now. You can try back again and hopefully they will be working when you log on. Sorry about that.


    Hey Everybody...got a couple from last night...one was a sketch of a tree stump and the other was a flower that I did in painter 7. I tried to follow the script in painter 7 for the flower but it went way too fast...so I kind of did my own thing...hope you like it.

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    Hi Everyone,
    If you didn't see my last post(s) on www.conceptart.org then I will bring you up to speed. Basically I have been inspired by the art produced and the work ethic of Jon Foster, Andrew Jones, Jason Manley, and my brother "Smeagol71" (among many others) and have decided to learn how to paint (primarily digitally). I am starting from rock bottom and I am going to paint at least one painting and do at least one sketch every day...probably two on the weekends. The order you see them in is the order that I am painting and/or sketching them...every day starting on 9/15/02. I am bearing my soul to everyone. I will post everything I do...whether it is awful or not. Most of the paintings and sketches, in the beginning, are going to look like crap but hopefully over the days/weeks/months/years they will start to get better. I have no formal art training but have signed up for classes this semester. I have a passion to paint and welcome any encouragement or critique that you want to give. Any feedback you want to give me you can leave in the threads I or just email me.
    Thanks
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    Great, now I want also to learn drawing ... :mad:

    Ok, you've convince me, I will learn ...

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    cmortier2002 - That's great...definitely start learning to draw/paint and just go out with boldness. I would definitely push yourself in the beginning hard as well because, I don't know if you are like me but I like to see results. So I keep pushing myself until I see results. I have already seen some improvement for me and it has just been 2 1/2-3 weeks of me drawing and painting. But the key is doing it everyday I think...no matter what time of day or not I make sure to do a painting and a drawing every day. Andrew Jones inspired me to do that with his portrait posts. So yeah definitely start doing it and post your work up and you and I can compare notes. :nod:

    Pretty soon hopefully we will evolved into full fledge Conceptartorgians....and we can kick the poo out of pooeaters. :evilbat:

    Ok Everybody...here is my latest drawing...I was having problems transferring my painting files from last night to my zip disk...I am gonna post them when I get home but I will post my sketch now...it's of a squirrel in two position I used a reference sketch when I did this. Here ya go:
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    Are you progressing or what ?

    Me beginer too.
    Some day we will kick big butt!

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    I just buy a graphic tablet... and started drawing with it, and see that I really need practice... anyway, this is not a Wacom tablet...

    I don't beleive it, I can finaly draw a circle, it was impossible with a mouse...

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    Oblio - Thanks so much for your encouragment. That is absolutely right! Someday we will kick major butt! And the harder we work...the sooner we will get there! :clapping2

    cmortier2002 - That's awesome that you have a tablet! I know what you mean...it is the greatest thing when you don't have to draw with your mouse anymore heheh...luckily I only had to draw with my mouse for a little while before I got one...but on the other hand...my brother paints a lot with his mouse and he does really good...but he definitely prefers a stylus and a wacom tablet. Keep it going! Keep practicing.

    Alright here is the painting and sketch from yesterday...I revisited that medicine bottle theme cause I wanted to try it again cause it was fun...my sketch was of my hand (Yes I'm married and I'm only 22 hehe...my wife is awesome). Hope you like 'em.

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    It's clear from these pieces that you've kept your momentum going.

    Good color choices on the ink bottle. The cool/warm contrast really makes it pop.

    Hands are really complex forms, so they can be tricky. You've done a good job of keeping the proportions in line. A couple of things to look for in the future: If you look closely, I think you'll see that the knuckles on the back of the hand don't have wrinkles on them the way the knuckles on the fingers do. Those first knuckles are defined by rather subtle tent-like shapes of tendons running over bones. (Hope this makes sense.)

    In my experience, beginners seem to want to put the first knuckles way up where the fingers separate. You've avoided that, which is good. But I think they should probably be even a little farther down from where you have them. On my hands, anyway, the webbing where the fingers separate is a good 1/3 or more along the first phalanges.

    I did a little excercise a while back where I traced the outline of my hand on the paper as if I were making a kindergarten turkey cutout (remember those?) and then made myself render the tones inside without using any further line. I found it very helpful. (I'd post it if only I had a scanner.)

    I hope this helps. Great work as always, MCM. Stick with it!


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    MindCandyMan : Thanks for the encouragements.

    I've tryed to paint a tree with my new tablet, here is what i've done with it:
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    Noon:30 - Hey Thanks for the constant encouragement man. I really appreciate it! It helps to get tips too because I am not in an art program yet so I have to just learn from you guys or from my brother. It's funny cause I actual did that "Thanksgiving Turkey outline" as well. I didn't have enough time to add the shading but hey great minds think alike right hehe. You are absolutely right about the webbing going up further...definitely. I need to pay closer attention!!!! hehe. Good tip about the knuckles too...it's funny cause you look at your hand and you think you "see" it...but your brain isn't trained to see things like an artist...that's a process I guess...and I am not stopping hehe.

    cmortier - Thanks for posting your stuff man!!!! That's great that you are putting your nose to the grind and drawing with your tablet...here are the tips I would give you.

    Draw the same exact tree that you posted this time. Don't draw the landscape or the sky or clouds or anything like that. Just draw the tree. Don't put any leaves on the tree either. Draw the tree and make some branches coming off of the top. When you draw the tree pick a light source...say it's coming from the right side of the tree...the right side of the tree will be a lighter brown than the left side of the tree because the right side is in direct line of the sun. Try to define the light and dark areas. Also I would practice drawing with a pencil as well. To paint well one needs to be able to draw well. Try to think about it not in terms of "where do I draw the lines that make this tree"...think about it in terms of ...where is there a lack of light...I should make that area darker...and in nature...nothing is usually Black and then pure white...light reflects off of everything and everywhere...capturing the way light works is the key to everything. Hope that helps...I would post some stuff in some other forums with experienced artists as well and get their feedback cause I am new like you! Thanks for posting...keep up the hard work! Here are some links that might help with visualizing the idea of that tree. The first one is just so you can see the leaves...look at the leaves...see the black mingled in there...and the whiter highlights...if you want to do leaves study that and see if you can emulate it.

    http://ww4.bhg.com/default.sph/garde...arch_html___29

    http://homepage.mac.com/jguzy/trees/bogayTreeA.html



    Well for my "digital imaging" class...photoshop, illustrator, etc... my teacher announced that this weekend we have to do 3 self portraits! I got scared to say the least hehe. Oh man..."I couldn't even draw squirrels last night how can I draw myself"....I thought to myself. Well here's my 22nd drawing and first self portrait ever.
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