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    Charcoal

    I need about 4' by 6' for a long charcoal project, but cannot find charcoal paper this size. I have seen canvas used with charcoal, but because I haven't worked with canvas I don't know what the difference between canvas with and without primer, or how to fix it afterward. Any insight would be welcome, thanks.

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    Spazz,

    Go to your local art dealer and ask. I believe you can customize paper from certain companies to fit your needs. I am almost 100% sure of this. If that doesn't work please let me know.

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    You could buy a 4' x 8' piece of untempered masonite down at the home supply store (for about 8 or 12 bucks) and saw two feet off to make it 4x6. You would sand it, and then apply several coats of matte white house paint sanding between each coat. Put at least one coat on the back side and also paint the edges (so moisture doesn't get inside and warp it). I think this will give you a smooth white surface to start with that will be rigid rather than being a bit jiggly like a stretched canvas. It should accept the charcoal OK and then when the work is done you can use that spray fixative to fix it. The spray fixative is basically a clear acrylic preparation, and I have painted acrylics on house paint primer before without ill effect.

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    dirka

    yeah, ill check my 'local' dealer(too bad he is 150 mls away, lol). in regard to the matte paint on a board.... would that actually have tooth? I realize it would probably take the charcoal but would it just completely smear if i rubbed it?

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    Spazz,

    Before driving that far do me a huge favor. Call dickblick. www.dickblick.com

    That is where my mother gets alot of her stuff from and they are awsome. They might be able to help you, and in turn you wont have to drive. The less driving we all do, the closer we get to reversing these bogus weather patterns :: )

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    I think for purposes of the charcoal and spray fixative, the house paint on board would have whatever tooth you want. You can make it rather bumpy and spiky by applying it with a roller and leaving it that way. You can make it flat but with lots of tiny grooves by only sanding with a rougher grade of sandpaper. You can make it really smooth by progressively sanding with ever finer grades of sandpaper. If you run into trouble finding the right paper or canvas, try preparing some practice surfaces on some piece of crap panel section from an abandoned piece of furniture before you commit to buying the masonite. That way you can find out for yourself whether you'll be able to work your style on it.

    For me, charcoal smears on paper if I let my hand touch it, and being careful is the only way to avoid that before I use the fixative. I know the fixative will be fine on this surface, but you will need a lot because of the size of the work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpazzoLemealn_99
    4' by 6' for a long charcoal project, but cannot find charcoal paper this size.
    You can't find 4 feet by 6 feet because it's an unusual size for art stores to sell (that's a monster of a paper).

    You can inquire with your local printing shops if they can sell you sheets with that dimension (or cut some to size). Bring with you an actual charcoal paper so you/they can match it with their paper stock.

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    yeah...

    I emailed dickblick.com, they regretted to inform me they couldn't get that size but routed me to an art supply distributer from new england, waiting for a reply

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