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    Geldslaw Sketch book

    After reading Concept art and being inspired, I started drawing three months ago in a life-drawing class. To say the least I was making the art teacher earn his money. lol

    Anwys, moving on, my Xmas started off with having no heating Xmas Eve and Xmas Day and no, it wasn't because I had not paid the bill. lol I was watching some anime and hen paused the video and started to draw what i saw on screen and was suprised by my resulst, did the same the following day and discovered it wasn't some fluke. I was really drawing.

    I've also discoverd that drawing really relaxes me and I'm loving doing what tutorials I can find on the net. Without further ado here's where I'm at to day.

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    apologies for the huge images

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    Smaller images

    sorry about the large files

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    Nice one! You just keep improving. Looking forward to seeing more.

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    Keep up the good work

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    hey man, good to see some anatomy studies in there. keep them up!!!!

    REALLY cool to hear of people being inspired to draw!!!! and welcome to CA!!!

    now first off i have to say i have somewhat of a bias against people drawing anime even though i love to watch it and enjoy the style to a certain extent. but i firmly believe if you want to learn, learn from life first then let your own style creep in... rather than learning from simply copying a pre existing style... thats not to say you can't learn from copying other drawings and other styles, but take in what you like and reject what you don't to find you own unique style.

    its really good to hear your taking a life drawing class, if you keep up with that you'll improve like crazy! always ask questions even if you think you are starting to piss of the tutor and (don't focus too hard on this, but) when your in life drawing try and think of an aspect to improve on. such as your observational skills(proportion, drawing what you see not what you think you see(there is a difference)) or line quality or whatever....

    anywayz, thats enough ranting from me... i'm just a humble student myself so take what i say with a grain of salt but yeah, hopefully a couple things i said will help

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    Thank you Kronos, Luume and Finlay for your encouragement. Yes I've done some anatomical studies and can see I have and want to do a lot more. I'm biased towards Anime at the moment as it's my anime society that has inspired me to want to draw.

    But also apart from doing life drawing, I'm doing 3D modeling and animation, but you're totally right, I should be studying drawing from life as that's what'll be animating.

    It's funny you should mention developing your own style, I can 'feel it happening' rather than see it happening, if that makes any sense? I can 'see more clearly i my minds eye' what I want to draw.

    I used to tell the life drawing teacher that I was 'artistically dyslexic' lol but now I don't feel that applies anymore as drawing is developing my artistic muscle, which in turn like learning a language, I'm slowly learning to speak a few words here and there.

    I intend to develop quite a vocabulary, and start to create compositions, there are as many different ways to express ourselves with any language of any craft if we study and develop the skills through 'Inout, process and output' and then most importantly, feedback

    If we didn't get that, would we even bother? So thank you for your input, it makes me stronger, gives me the fuel to feed my desires to want to be better and strengthens my resolve and dertermination to be and remain committed to 'working smart and not hard' in developing my strengths and weaknesses.

    The hard part was over coming my fear of criticism and the smart part was recognising that the criticism was the best part of coming here and I'll be working hard to come back to show I've been listening and taking onboard your generosity in sharing your time to make the effort to help.

    Many thanks

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    Hey thanks for stopping by my sb and for the kind words.

    I can see you are working hard and dedicatedly, kudos to you there!

    For the time being I'd advise you to stay away from the Anime style. There's nothing wrong with it technically, but the problem I and many others here have with it is it tends to drive people into corners and corridors, and everything ends up looking exactly the same and nothing about it is exciting. Rather explore other avenues whilst you are still fresh at this, and then later try to incorporate some anime elements into your own work!

    Keep up the hard work and you'll go places!

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    Yo geldslaw, nice sketches man, I think it's great that
    you did loads of sketches of different heads. eyes and stuff. I agree with
    Kronos on the life drawing aspects; i think that it's equally important
    to not forget to have fun whilst drawing.


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    Reference drawings for modeling a robot

    I'm doing a project in 3d modeling where we are doing character development at college and ony recently have I started to look at anatomical studies.

    Which definately have helped me in drawing more structured characters propertionally. In reference to my last posting, here are some character reference drawings I may model, I've deliberately kept the details simple so that the details can be created in photoshop as texture. I've mainly focussed on proportions and these are my first drawings where I could see in my minds eye what I wanted to draw and I am pleased that what I imagined I was able to draw.

    But any comments on improvements of the proportions are welcomed bearing in mind I want to keep simplicity as the guiding rule, I will be doing a side reference of the male robot as well.



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    apologies for large images

    sorry for the large image, I hadn't realised, yet again that the size was huge, this is a smaller version

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    check my friends site
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    Online MangaUniversity Anime Course Drawings

    Here are some drawings from my sketchbook, there anime related but because I'm a 3D Modeling and Animation, Animation Skills course and need to prep a portafolio for applying to a degree to do animation.

    I had to come up with a plan of action to get my none existent drawing skills up to ease. I've been involved in educationfor a long time, as lecturer, trainer and Development consultant. I basically specialise in setting up coaching programs after assessing current skills and make a program to develop skils to meet the skills gap for whatever project those skills are required from.

    I did for myself and the program I came up with was, have fun, have fun, have fun. Fear or stress closes the mind to learning, with fun, the most apt fondess memories remain apparent.

    I decided to use my love of anime and manga as a stepping stone, start simple and keep it simple. The idea is to use the Online Manga university tutorials to introduse me to just drawing, not sketching, just drawing.

    I felt it was important that I could feel a sense of accomplishment and I do and I am making accomplishements. Progress has been sturdy and productive.Always, always room for improvement.

    Next, I intend to progress and start the polykarbon sites tutorials as the next step from manga university because, manga, taught me how to draw anime, polykarbon will teach me how to draw and sketch manga.

    The emphasis here is the introduction to sketching they look at the body with more detail examples, and again their tutorials all have specific goals in mind that meet my needs.

    I need to be able to draw reference drawings for 3D models, I need to be able to draw perspective view of those models and I need to be able to draw conceptually as well.

    Another need is the ability to create story boards for animation ideas or briefes. Both the manga university and polykarbon courses meet those specifi needs.

    Then ultimately there's the abiltity to show 'expressive personal art', I can feel it, its' like a ripple in a lake, soft gentle winds blowing across the water on a hot summers day, cooling me down and letting me enjoy the moment.

    I'm getting there, by pacing myself, and holding back somewhat on my developmental process. I do not want to have to repeat any lessons, that would imply that I did not learn it in the first place. lol

    So whilst you peruse my burgeoning sketch book take my aims and goals into consideration, I'm developing the required skills so that I can eat and pay bills in the future.

    I'll be able to present beautiful and critically acclaimed art in less or more than two months from now. Lofty dreams? Watch this space. lol thank you for looing and giving me love.

    this is what i've been doing to get me upto speed and its from the manga online university tutorials - http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/

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    Talking Missing images

    appears you can only upload 3 images at a time, here are the missing ones

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    3rd set of images

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    check out my sketch book
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    check my friends site
    Finlay http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86333

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    Hey, thanks for posting in my SB and the kind words! I can definatly see an improvement! Good job with the zeal too. I like the mech best by far? Have you modeled it yet? If/When you do be sure to post it so I can see it.

    I don't want to repeat what every one else has been saying about life drawing so I won't...but it's ture!


    Good luck and keep that drive up; that will be you best tool!

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    Yer I hear you, and I totally agree, but my approach is deliberate, and I can't waitto get past some basic studies to get into the meat and potatoes of art lol, see you at the lunch table, so save me a seat.

    Life is pretty much like a game of chess, so make sure your next move is your best move
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    check out my sketch book
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...eldslaw:yayca:

    check my friends site
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    good start..by the way i m not convince that the manga learn to draw..
    Learn to draw isn't only to be able to draw super fighter or cute women and so on.. it's just the fun stuff the result of your work. If you prefer , if you want to learn to draw..just have the will to draw. It's a good thing to get basics ( i missed some of these). Try to observe around you , how it s in the reality and draw that the best you can. try to understand when you get the pencil on your paper sheet. ..
    finally the most important is to have fun and your journey will be nice.
    keep that ! sorry for the length.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shylone_Breath
    good start..by the way i m not convince that the manga learn to draw..
    Learn to draw isn't only to be able to draw super fighter or cute women and so on.. it's just the fun stuff the result of your work. If you prefer , if you want to learn to draw..just have the will to draw. It's a good thing to get basics ( i missed some of these). Try to observe around you , how it s in the reality and draw that the best you can. try to understand when you get the pencil on your paper sheet. ..
    finally the most important is to have fun and your journey will be nice.
    keep that ! sorry for the length.

    I can't tell you how muh fun I am having drawing. I totally understand and completely appreciate the support and cricism I am getting and it is because of thelove for art everyone has got.

    I am aware that not everyone will start with manga or anime, hahahahha but c'mon, how many people sat in school drawing cartoon or comic characterson their schoolbooks?

    I didn't and I wish I had or could've done. I deliberately choose mnaga and anime because I waned to be able to draw quick and easy story boards for 2d animation ideas.

    I have to make a living, put bread and wine on the table so to speak. If learning to do simpson southpark or family guy type characters is what pays the bills and keeps me out of debtor prison? So be it.

    So far I am pleased with the results and I can now draw characters of the top of my head and I'm going to learn how to cell shade them, suing highlight, diffuse and ambient lighting. It aint much, but its a start and it seems to work for big budget CGI animations, so I aint complaining.

    Don't get me wrong, I want to sketch, and sketching is not drawing, to me drawing is strong black lines for reference drawings and anmations. Sketching and painting, is the stance and dance between light and dark shades of colour and light.

    I'll surprise mysel lol, anyways I'm studying this week, studying shading, so hang in there. love you all and thanks for looking

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    check out my sketch book
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    check my friends site
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    ehhhh. This seems ok art work. looks like you have been praticing though. Anime is an ok style if your weeaboo enough to do it. It won't get you know where though. Have you ever tried drawing Real life figurs? Like try using construction in your drawings. It get things more proportional. Take your time, don't rush things through.

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    Anime & Manga Art

    Quote Originally Posted by Deru
    ehhhh. This seems ok art work. looks like you have been praticing though. Anime is an ok style if your weeaboo enough to do it. It won't get you know where though. Have you ever tried drawing Real life figurs? Like try using construction in your drawings. It get things more proportional. Take your time, don't rush things through.
    Deru- you're so wrong, it has got me somewhere. It has got me closer to people who I can now call friends, share my time and ideas with. It has given me the confidence to want to draw more and be better at drawing and the other artistic disciplines.

    I'm so pleased that that all artists are stubborn and I'll be like them. They laughed at Salvadore Dali and Van Gogh for their art, they were ridiculed because they did not conform and chose to be individualistsic.

    Much more is achieved through praise than criticism or cynicism. I do not feel offended and in fact feel proud that I am being told the same information over and over again.

    There is a purpose to my resolve, I'm learning art, I have a system, a chosen path, I'm training to be an animator and I'm learning to do that which will help me first. Believe me I want to sketch beautiful drawings but I can't animate those can I?

    Please keep checking my sketchbook and you will see me grow, slowly but carefully and beautifully as well.

    Life is pretty much like a game of chess, so make sure your next move is your best move
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    I feel like I'm at the best gallery in the world and I'm loving it.
    check out my sketch book
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...eldslaw:yayca:

    check my friends site
    Finlay http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86333

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    Hey geldslaw,

    Thankyou for you comment, I love the fact that you are so open to criticism, and the fact that you have an earnest desire to draw. I myself started by freezing frames of anime and drawing them because i was so inspired, in my case it was Hiyao Miyazaki's "Princess Mononoke". As a result, i wanted to become an animator, and all of my art work relied on lines, not tone. It still does to this day effect me, as i get tone with hundreds of small lines, lol. Today, 5 years later, i'm a struggling illustrator....Anyway, i am warning you that anime and animated films and features are drawings that are simplified enough to be able to be reproduced thousands of times. They are all line, and no tones. Learning to draw this way has its advantages, but i know i had to fight against myself to learn the other side of it, ...which is using tone with no defining lines. I would strongly suggest using tone and maybe working in charcoal from life figures, it can be marvelously simple, enjoyable, and produce results. Drawing is an amazing thing, experiment with many different types of methods, and look to the human body for proportions. Anime is not properly proportioned correctly. Its a nice STYLE. The artists who draw anime and do it well are choosing to draw in this style, because they prefer it or like how it looks. But bet your bottom dollar many learned and can draw proper figures as well. Learn the basics first, then choose to draw that way. Its like abstract art, the best abstract artists are artists that can paint an draw there asses off, and they KNOW how to make something abstract and beautiful because of it. Crappy abstract art is a product of the artists inability to paint and draw correctly, they don't understand what they are abstracting, and as a result, they cannot do it so it is ascetically pleasing. Draw from the models, experiment, and learn that way. Experiment with anime, but try not to be too heavily influenced by it, you will see what i'm talking about in a few years, I'm sure.

    Drawing is the building block skill to all other forms of visual art. We are alls students of it till the day we die.

    hope i helped,
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    Quote Originally Posted by geldslaw
    Deru- you're so wrong, it has got me somewhere. It has got me closer to people who I can now call friends, share my time and ideas with. It has given me the confidence to want to draw more and be better at drawing and the other artistic disciplines.
    I ment jobwise, not social wise.

    Quote Originally Posted by geldslaw
    I'm so pleased that that all artists are stubborn and I'll be like them. They laughed at Salvadore Dali and Van Gogh for their art, they were ridiculed because they did not conform and chose to be individualistsic.
    But they didnt draw anime.
    They wernt really ridiculed. I am not here to start a flame war here. I am just saying. If you really want to be a pro at anime, look how the actual pros do it. They use construction and realism all the time. You know what? Japan is more obsessed with american animation/art work than america is obessesd with japanese anime/art work. Just take your time on things use constructions. Artist learn from thier mistakes. sure you have a alot of mistakes. just keep on praticing take a couple art classes.

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    Ok, OK! everyone seems to think I'mon the defensive, I'm not, I do attend life drawing classes. I am enjoying the life drawing classes. Up until Christamas I was always afraid to draw, because I didn't know how to draw.

    I'm like a lot of people, the general public, we don't realise how much effort goes into to studying and practicing to be able to draw. We totally understand that an athelete, musician or Dr has to spend years in training and practicing but because art is so easily and readily availabel to us we naturally assume you have to be a natural.

    It's not until you have the desire to practice and keep practicing, striving to improve and recieve appropriate encouragement as you guys are already recieving and giving.

    I'm only saying I chose anime as I may add, a starting point. The problem is, I did, I hope, make a mention that my approach was to learn how to draw animation.

    I've done the tutorials from http://www.howtodrawmanga.com and these fewdrawings are from there. They're sufficient enough to get me started and to build up my confidence to want to do tonal studies.

    Obviously I need to show you the tonal study I've done of still life in charcoal and the tonal study I'll be doing in lifer drawing this monday to show you that I am doing just as you suggested.

    But also in the meantime to get quick and easy drawings done so that I can create reference materials for modeling and animation I'm doing anime drawings until I get better in other areas.

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    check my friends site
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    I've been drawing officially less than a month and I think I'm making good progress because I'm applying it to other areas

    Life is pretty much like a game of chess, so make sure your next move is your best move
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    I feel like I'm at the best gallery in the world and I'm loving it.
    check out my sketch book
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...eldslaw:yayca:

    check my friends site
    Finlay http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=86333

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    here's me doing some liccle sketches and practicing perspectives

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    Quote Originally Posted by geldslaw
    here's me doing some liccle sketches and practicing perspectives
    Ahhh There We go. That is the kind of work i'm been talking about. It seems like you do know how to use construction a tad bit, but I wanna see if you can draw construction on the human male body. You are improving a little more, but I would love to point out that you use the painbucket tool to color your art work. Bad idea. Have you use layers in photoshop befor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deru
    Ahhh There We go. That is the kind of work i'm been talking about. It seems like you do know how to use construction a tad bit, but I wanna see if you can draw construction on the human male body. You are improving a little more, but I would love to point out that you use the painbucket tool to color your art work. Bad idea. Have you use layers in photoshop befor?
    Yes I have used the layer tool in photoshop, but the use of the paint bucket was to just get tisngs done quickly because I didn't want to spend anymore time on drawing or messing about with manga/anime characters.

    As you can see I'm putting in some practice with constructing but like building a house everything takes time and somethings need to settle before you can build on them.

    I have life drawing classes, on monday evenings, last week we did tonal studies with still life, the work I did is still in class and on monday we'll have aour life drawing model to do tonal studies with. So I'll take home the artwork so I can take a pic with my mobi and put in online for your perusal.

    For me, the most important thing is that I have overcome my fear of drawing, I'm a member of the colleges MAG society, manga anime and games society. The most active thread is the manga and anime with everyone contributing to it like its going out of fashion.

    I, pardon the pun, killed several birds with one stone;

    1. developed a basic skill for drawing manga and anime,

    2. developed a basic skill for drawing characters for my animation classes on wednesdays,

    3. developed the basic skill for being able to draw references that are within the tolerance of charactor design anatomy for modeling in 3D

    4. developed a basic skill for doing he minimum requirement of developing story boards and sketches for my preliminary interview before applying for the animation degree.

    Before I decided artistic it was my career speciality to look a skills gaps and develop a training program tat wold bring people up to speed to met the minimum requirements of being able to commit/contribute or participate in a departmental/corporate project for delivering new or reducing services to increase propfits and reduce costs.

    I looked at the time availabel to me and looked at the areas I needed to develop a skill set to further my career and what would be minimal but tolerable given various parameters and as you know anime/manga got me upto speed.

    I know you cannot or should not take a scietntific or business approach to art, well its not a rule bt a guideline, but with all good intentions, people like to see effort, even you, and people like to see results, even you.

    So with limited resources I have to please everyone and meet my own deadlines. lol but I will say this, I'm filled with passion and a lot of hope which will be expressed through my art so watch this space.


    Hope you had a great breakfast and the a good start to the day, I did, can;t wait to get working on improving, thanks for getting back to me and I'll speak to you soon.

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    Anatomical tonal studies

    Hopefully by the time the weekend is over i should;ve completed some more tonal studies and then during the week, I'll start going through doing eyes arms, shoulders, from photographs. but I figured I would do this one before I went to bed

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    Good start with the perspective and muscles I reckon.

    I think at this stage one of the things that you'll find most helpful is getting the proportions sorted out. If you haven't already, check out the loomis and hogarth books available in .pdf. You can find the links to download them if you do a search in the lounge I think.

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    Red face loomis and hogarth books

    Quote Originally Posted by JERI
    Good start with the perspective and muscles I reckon.

    I think at this stage one of the things that you'll find most helpful is getting the proportions sorted out. If you haven't already, check out the loomis and hogarth books available in .pdf. You can find the links to download them if you do a search in the lounge I think.
    thank you for the supportive comments, I keep telling myself that developing my artistic abilities is like training for a marathon that will last a lifetime so I need to do a (liccle bit often practice) practice every day.

    I've got loomis somewhere, I'll look up Hogarth - cheers

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    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...eldslaw:yayca:

    check my friends site
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