Just thinking out loud...

Join the #1 Art Workshop - LevelUpJoin Premium Art Workshop
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 30 of 62
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Southwestern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    7,134
    Thanks
    8,227
    Thanked 5,581 Times in 1,786 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0

    Just thinking out loud...

    I'm toying with something that could be interesting, but only if other people think it might be, too...

    After I ask the Admins for permission, I'm thinking of starting an on-going competition in the challenge area, sometime after the holidays and big competitions are over. It's going to be a bit different from what you're all used to, but it could be fun. My primary purpose, though, is to TEACH...

    Most of us are here for many reasons--to get a feel for what the professionals are doing, how they do it, plain and simple inspiration, learning the problems/solutions involved in "real" work, and hopefully learning what it takes in becoming a "pro" someday ourselves...

    Over the last couple of months, I've seen posts in a good many threads that rattled my cage a bit...

    "This is boring."

    "We only have 6 months to do this?!?"

    "I hate [insert the stupidest thing that ever came out of your mouth about art]."

    "So what! I'm never doing that, so why should I even care about/attempt/plan for it?"

    "This subject is shitty! Can I do something I like instead?"

    "Who cares?"

    "Yeah, yeah, I know it sucks, but I'm tired of messin' with it..."

    "I'm in...unless I get laid by [insert name or animal of your choice]!"

    "Hey! Bite me! If I want want my 15th century nun wearing a bikini, I'll do it..."

    "When's this due? I really don't have the time to go back to page 1 and see for myself..."

    "I hate acrylics! Can I just put my water color/crayons/pablum on real thick instead?"

    Many of you may see yourselves somewhere in the above probably. If you do, you're sliding down the ladder, not climbing it.

    The real world doesn't revolve around you, the real world doesn't wait for you, the real world doesn't have to pay you for doing something more fun than what they requested, and the real world sure as hell isn't going to want to hear how your dog ate your final piece--coincidentally on the last day it was due.

    My thought is a series of competitions that directly counter the above attitudes, with RATIONAL and varying deadlines (I won't request anything that even approaches "Need this tomorrow, Asshole!"), with subjects that range from mundane to beautiful-once-in-a-lifetime-events, possibly done in specific ways, maybe in specific media (don't panic--look-alike qualifies here), maybe something that needs some heavy-duty research, or has to fill a narrow request by a specific "client." NO extensions, NO excuses, NO slacking off...BUT...NO question will go unanswered, no matter how stupid you think it might be. The ones that know will share, and maybe we'll all learn a bit.

    We will crit every piece entered. You WILL be graded by me (and any number of other/more qualified people that I can blackmail into helping), as well as your peers, and your grade WILL COUNT in the finals. The higher your accumulated grades, the closer to being in the right mind-set for a pro you become. And the results will be based on creativity, appropriateness of the solution, how well you fulfilled the request, and the actual level of finish you achieve (allowing for your age or experience). Unlike the current challenges in the Challenge section, the "most-looks-just-like-what-everybody-thinks-conceptual-art-looks-like" will often NOT be the winner. In fact, many of the assignments may not even appear to have an obvious connection to the world of the Concept Artist (Trust me--they will!).

    The idea is to get used to and exposed to the real problems that exist in the real world, something that's a bit hard to do when you're still in school, or just getting started.

    Any comments, opinions, questions?

    No position or belief, whether religious, political or social, is valid if one has to lie to support it.--Alj Mary

    Ironically, the concept of SIMPLICITY is most often misunderstood by simple-minded people. --Alj Mary
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  


  2. Hide this ad by registering as a member
  3. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Posts
    4,881
    Thanks
    286
    Thanked 1,441 Times in 259 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I'm all curious now. :-)

    I think you are awesome, and I wish you the best in your endeavors, but I am tired of repeating myself, I am very busy with my new baby, and I am no longer a regular participant here, so please do not contact me to ask for advice on your career or education. All of the advice that I have to offer can already be found in the following links. Thank you.

    Perspective 101, Concept Art 101, Games Industry info,Oil Paint info, Acrylic Paint info, my sketchbook.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  4. #3
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    Pasadena, CA
    Posts
    3,535
    Thanks
    236
    Thanked 307 Times in 195 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Ditto.

    I wouldn't mind critiquing a bit =)

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  5. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    434
    Thanks
    6
    Thanked 33 Times in 7 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    "Yeah, yeah, I know it sucks, but I'm tired of messin' with it..."
    thats a quote from me aint it.

    sounds like a good idea to me. i know im slacking and i need to stop. as well as have alot to learn

    never updated sketchbook

    hopefully weekly updated blog
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  6. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Location
    SAHN DEEAHGO
    Posts
    2,919
    Thanks
    5,580
    Thanked 838 Times in 314 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    It sounds like a great idea to me. I need to expand my abilities and get shoved out of my comfort zone as much as possible. So, if this comes to pass, count me in.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  7. #6
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Schenectady, NY
    Posts
    935
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 34 Times in 26 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    ila - always the brilliantly demented forum thinker. My question is this though - how can we retain a consistent number of students in these competitions? I have seen many a similar idea go by the wayside because the general populace does not seem to stick to one thing (other than Fozzy beating the shit outta people with the COW, CHOW, etc etc.). Is there some way to get peoples attention asap on these things so that this retains all its fatty goodness and flavor?

    -sorry was thinking about eating prime rib just then-

    I would be up for it time permitting.

    -TeT-

    Keep your dream alive - Feed it daily!

    "The true essence of swordsmanship is like the willow blowing in the gentle breeze" - Tesshu (someday my art will be like this)

    website

    Mah Sketchbawk!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  8. #7
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Southwestern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    7,134
    Thanks
    8,227
    Thanked 5,581 Times in 1,786 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Testse Fly, you wouldn't have to do it every time. I understand that all of us have other things going on, but the "grades" you get would accumulate. The more you participate, the more you rise up the "pro ladder" so to speak.

    Some of the things I have in mind to do are not all that different than what we do now...just from a different angle, with a different set of priorities required, if you know what I mean.

    I'm going to try to break the mindset of "This is how it's always done, so that's how I'll do it." and "Eh...I don't like this one..." that can cause real "culture shock" when we little dweebies hit the wide wide world with a pencil, paper and the rent due. And I truly intend to make them intersting enough for most people to try at least some of the comps...

    So I can handle this myself starting off, I'll keep things simple at first til I can maybe get some of the pros involved once in a while, especially when it involves one of their specialties.

    The one over-riding thing I want to do is convince people to THINK...THEN draw/paint/whatever. A few minutes spent at the right moment just contemplating the pile of shit some idiot dumped on your drawing table is often the most valuable single thing you can do to be a successful artist. The way I'm going to do this is to force you by restrictions in the rules to think in a way that prevents most "clichčed" answers.

    Above all, I want it to be fun just to see what we can do with something totally stupid, or so totally outside our own area of interest as to be a real ball-breaker in some fashion. And i'm thinking SIMPLE. The single hardest thing anyone can do. SIMPLE. The straightest, most accurate solution to something so simple that it seems there's nothing for us to do...but we're going to do it anyway, and better than the next guy.

    Hey, I figure it's worth a shot for a couple of weeks, but if it doesn't work...eh...we'll come up with something else...I'm flexible (well...as flexible as someone who remembers the Civil War can be...)

    No position or belief, whether religious, political or social, is valid if one has to lie to support it.--Alj Mary

    Ironically, the concept of SIMPLICITY is most often misunderstood by simple-minded people. --Alj Mary
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  9. #8
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Sacramento and Los Angeles
    Posts
    988
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 164 Times in 61 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    sounds cool

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  10. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Vancouver, BC
    Posts
    2,250
    Thanks
    239
    Thanked 319 Times in 109 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Definitely sounds like something I'd be up for! My one complaint about most of the Community Activities we've got now is that they all tend to focus on how pretty your picture is, with the thought put into the piece largely ignored. Or at least their reward system does. Having a person grading, rather than a popular vote would be a nice change of pace. It should make for a good balance with the activities we've got.

    Looking forward to this!


    0kelvin

    www.WhereIsMyEyeball.com My portfolio! Go check it out!
    Sketchbook
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  11. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    San Francisco
    Posts
    671
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 29 Times in 22 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    i think id be in on this, just might need someone to kick my ass and force me to do it everytime. But it sounds really cool otherwise.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  12. #11
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    sweden
    Posts
    7,475
    Thanks
    1,696
    Thanked 1,220 Times in 624 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
Cool, sounds awesome.. I would be in =)

~Dile

Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #12
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    1,405
    Thanks
    19
    Thanked 39 Times in 25 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0

    Sounds awesome.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #13
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    4,915
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 28 Times in 21 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    This is boring.

    just kidding, i'd love this!

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #14
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Melbourne, Australia
    Posts
    2,505
    Thanks
    3
    Thanked 539 Times in 203 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Thats a great idea Ilakae, I wish you the best with it, I hope you have enough time to do it!

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #15
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Posts
    990
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    hmmm i might be in if the topic is appealing to me and the deadline isn't to tight. any sponsors or prizes yet?

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #16
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    Berlin , Germany
    Posts
    1,820
    Thanks
    42
    Thanked 123 Times in 53 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    if i dont have to pay massive amounts of money which i dont have on colors , software etc. im in...<_<

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilaekae
    "Art is the physical result of your soul battling with your intellect to the death...with a sharp pencil..."
    THE AUSTRIAN SKETCHLORDS
    Baron Carnifex
    Duke Corky
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #17
    Join Date
    Nov 2005
    Location
    Mannheim/Karlsruhe, Germany
    Posts
    2,276
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 37 Times in 30 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    excelent
    bring it on and I'll do my best

    my sketchbook
    friends Sketchbooks:Dile_, Stine
    my flickr go there if you want to see my photography stuff

    <mildly sarcastic remark that seems a little cutting at first read, but contains wisdom and is really rather funny>

    Ilaekae: "I'm sick and tired of "purists" who dictate their own anal preoccupations to everybody else as the word of gods."
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #18
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Location
    GA and the world
    Posts
    4,500
    Thanks
    65
    Thanked 122 Times in 63 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I think the real draw here would be guaranteed, in-depth critiques on the piece and on the process. With the proper follow-through, this idea could be a tremendous boon to those who really want to learn.

    Which is, in my opinion, the best part of this community.

    Cheers to you, Ilaekae.

    Cheers to you.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #19
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Hamburg, Germany
    Posts
    1,119
    Thanks
    13
    Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    most promissing post I've ever seen
    I'd have the time and wil to participate (from in two month on) I'd say
    looking forward for it

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #20
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Posts
    856
    Thanks
    37
    Thanked 24 Times in 15 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    You old cat, I want you as my teacher in uni! The idea is marvelous, I'd love to participate and have my pride ripped to shreds lol!

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #21
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    60
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    This would be fantastic - as someone who does not really know what they are doing but would like to develop this is an invaluable idea. This is what I was hoping from ConceptArt since I signed up.

    Please please do this as soon as you can. I am eager to be involved.

    Pixel Dust

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #22
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Suomi
    Posts
    451
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Got my interest. Ill try to join and see if I can kick off the dust from my drawing hand with this and if I can get my damn scanner to work.

    ps. Are you getting younger Ilaekae?

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #23
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    1,284
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Aether

    ps. Are you getting younger Ilaekae?
    thats not nice man :/, well me quoting it for emphasis and making a big deal about it isn't either, but, well um, yeah...

    Anyway, awesome idea ilaekae!!

    Oh Yeah, and YAY FOR THINKING OUT LOUD!

    Last edited by blog; January 17th, 2007 at 02:15 PM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #24
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Sweden, the whinebelt.
    Posts
    270
    Thanks
    35
    Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Wow. I'd be in.

    SSG 34
    gadammit it's
    The Selenium Six

    ..seer..alzorath..bunny..max xiantu..liquidjack..beershite..
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #25
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Posts
    688
    Thanks
    34
    Thanked 17 Times in 9 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Sounds really interesting, i hope this will lift off

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #26
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    Schenectady, NY
    Posts
    935
    Thanks
    5
    Thanked 34 Times in 26 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    heh ila i have had some of an idea of ranking floating through my mind as well for some time. Like you get your white belt in perspective or something or other. Yes I see it all now....

    NOW FOR $9.99 you too can have your very own mail order art black belt - KIAH!!!!



    im in for the ride on this one

    Keep your dream alive - Feed it daily!

    "The true essence of swordsmanship is like the willow blowing in the gentle breeze" - Tesshu (someday my art will be like this)

    website

    Mah Sketchbawk!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #27
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    Montreal
    Posts
    3,234
    Thanks
    860
    Thanked 847 Times in 457 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I have to agree that I'm regularly appaled (sp?) by the number of extensions some TD's get. You don't get stuff like that in real world too much and when you do it's bad for your rep. And it's unfair to ppl who made the deadline to begin with. It's a good idea.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #28
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    sweden
    Posts
    7,475
    Thanks
    1,696
    Thanked 1,220 Times in 624 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
  • Updates Ilaekae!!!
    I want to know more AND i want this going



    ~Dile

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #29
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Southwestern Pennsylvania
    Posts
    7,134
    Thanks
    8,227
    Thanked 5,581 Times in 1,786 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    It's on. I'll probably start it in mid-late January...need time to organize all the details...

    No position or belief, whether religious, political or social, is valid if one has to lie to support it.--Alj Mary

    Ironically, the concept of SIMPLICITY is most often misunderstood by simple-minded people. --Alj Mary
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • #30
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    893
    Thanks
    11
    Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Great idea! I'm in for sure.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  • Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast

    Members who have read this thread: 0

    There are no members to list at the moment.

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •  
    Art Workshop Discount Inside
    Login or Register
    Register

    Developed Actively by vBSocial.com
    The Art Department
    SpringOfSea's Sketchbook