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December 28th, 2006 #1
Ok. As you remember from my painting of Thor, I am doing a series of the Norse god paintings. Here is the preliminary sketch for Odin that I did tonight. I like it, however, I am needing to work out the problem of his hand that is holding his big-ass spear. There is not much detail in this initial sketch, I just wanted to get my idea down on paper. I also need to draw the straps on the sheild and do some other detailing before I paint it, however, I am most interested in correcting the hand holding the spear atm.
draw-over's are welcome
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yup it looks like the right wrist is broken - I'd suggest figuring out where the radius and ulna are positioned as they attach to the hand. The hand is restricted in its range of movement - you may just correct this by changing the angle of the spear?
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December 28th, 2006 #3
Sure I remember your Thor thread! That was a very instructive one. Hope this one also become as interesting.
Like the way the picture is getting, but the way the spear is hold is not quite fitting to me. hope you don´t mind a paint over to clarify what I´m saying.
December 28th, 2006 #4
Hmmm, I did not re-draw anything yet, I simply rotated the wrist and spear by -10. This sets the wrist in line with the arm, now I need to re-draw the anatomy of the hand that is holding the spear. I am also thinking of putting a glove on this hand also to mirror the glove on the other one.
December 28th, 2006 #5
The foreshortening on his right arm isn't working. Take a shot of yourself in this pose with a broom or something similar; you'll be amazed. It might also cure him of his Popeyed forearm. On another vein, with his shoulder pulled up that far, I would imagine it would cover more of the beard (helping create some more depth).
I'm stoked that he's carrying some of his legendary weight 'round the mid-section. Check his left fist, though; it seems unproportionally long from base to knuckle (detracting from his thickness, giving him a piano-player feel).
December 29th, 2006 #6
"The foreshortening on his right arm isn't working." -I feel the same way. The hand looks too small, too much the same size as the left perhaps- yet the angle and foreshorting of the spear makes me think it should be larger. I really like the drawing. I really like the theme
Humm. looking at it... The invisible line that would run from the point of his helmet to his chin feels a little crooked/curved to me. Like, if you rotated his chin, mouth, and nose clockwise just a tad they would then line up with the angle on his eyes and brow a little more.. maybe. I guess with coloring it might look more like it was this way because of his expression. I knwow when I color it changes things like that A LOT
I think I would like to see a glove on both hands too. *glove fan*
December 29th, 2006 #7
Hey thanks for the comments guys. You are right, I am having trouble with the foreshortening of the hand holding the spear and turning it into space correctly............meh! Anyway, back to the sketch, trying to fix it right now, any help is appreciated.
January 3rd, 2007 #8
I know how much you love overpaints so here's my take on the foreshortening.
The main problem that i saw was that while the spear has extreme foreshortening, the arm dosen't. So you need to extend the arm towards the viewer a little more, which also means that you have to start mucking around with the proportions as the hand will now look bigger than usual.
January 3rd, 2007 #9
*Slaps forehead* Of course! Thanks Nutter! That is exactly what I was looking to do, for some reason I just could not get it to work, however, now I can redraw it with this wonderful example!
January 3rd, 2007 #10