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    Quote Originally Posted by kingshaj View Post
    this is art
    and that’s rare...reminds me that the rest of us are just conceptual illustrators..............yes reader, you too.
    sorry, I cant resist, even at risk of sounding like a flamer, but there is a massive collection of underground artists producing work like this for decades. again, not a stab at this artist, he rocks. Im defending the hundreds of artists who work without pay and havent conformed to needing to post their work on the internet forums for feedback or recognition from you.

    Just because no one else on this forum posting it doesnt mean he's invented it. I duno, reading the comments on this thread have realy shown me how little most people know about art, design, art history, and whats out there beyond "conceptual Illustration".

    This guy obviously knows what he's doing. but theres a whole lot of "Wow i was like and oh no nudity!" in here. That combined with "Oh dark stuff is so beautifull! I love how that cats blood reflects the flash of the camera, so artistic and edgey!" Theres a heavy 'high school vibe' coming off on this site. This stuff realy isnt that shocking, or original. Its well done mind you, once again, he is an awsome artist. But the only reason you think its 'rare' or original is because you spend all your time HERE.

    Just to clarify for the thousandth time, I like this guys stuff, hes an awsome artist, so dont give me the holyer-than-thou speach on needing to appreciate something out of the main stream bullshit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanimal View Post
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    This is ART????If this is art,I make art everytime I go to the WC.

    You did some good things and every body said "Great!".Now you do some weird and ugly things and everybody keep saying "Great!".I really dont´t understand.
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    Hmm... You were saying that your major is...stage design? Or maybe somehow i got confused?

    Nice drawings, m8.
    As my artist's statement explains, my work is utterly incomprehensible and is therefore full of deep significance.
    - Bill Watterson, Calvin and Hobbes cartoon strip
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    TO Camara :


    i just took photos with the dead cat,which i saw by the road

    It's none of my business that how you feel how you think

    are you a communist guy or a North Korea ?
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    I like that you attempt a variety of mediums. I think you take nice photographs that flatter your products. You have a strong theatrical streak. And the photographs of the sets look like those productions were well lit and expensive. Whoever does the lighting is really doing the heavy lifting. I like that you are having fun in what you do. The girls seem to like wearing the costumes with the long sleeves.

    Your S&M and anatomical drawings are fairly academic and boring. Actually you have that problem with a lot of your drawings when you rely too much on photography. Although there is one head of a boy I think done in charcoal that nicely recalls Fechin.

    The insects are very realistic looking. Did you use a mold?

    I like the dollhouse-size sets. Again, the lighting really does the trick on the modernist/expressionist ones. With such good lighting, I can't see the actual craftsmanship or design of the pieces themselves, which prevents me from making a judgement on the artistry you brought to them.

    I was wondering, did you make all those little furniture pieces in that indoor set? The piano, the chairs... the wallpaper. Those look store bought. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    The clay Nazis don't have much integrity as sculpture and it doesn't seem like the "play" involving them has much to say. Maybe I'm missing something. I guess cute Nazis is an artistic statement. (I was gonna write: But let me ask my friend George Kojak down the street who still has tatooed numbers on his arm from when he was a small child... But that would be taking it all too seriously, right? And that would be uncool.)

    Yes when you spray scrambled colored clay with glycerin it can look like viscera. Or vomit. Why are you demonstrating this for us? Maybe you should put that in the "How to" section. I'd be interested in how you made the bugs too. They look realistic... and sprayed with something that makes them shiny.

    Yes, when you wave vast swaths of cloth in the air it's like clouds! I think everybody knows that.

    I see lots of hanging sheets in the stage productions. That must have been tough to rig up. Do the hanging sheets have any meaning or are they just for decoration? Did you do the sewing yourself on the garments?

    I thought your pen drawings were very pleasant. You have a strong decorative instinct in that medium but I would encourage you to explore some more pen textures besides the cloth-hair texture you tend to proliferate. Check out Beardsley, Dulac, Jessie M. King, Barry Windsor Smith, Yunge, Wallace Smith, Arthur Rackham and Harry Clarke for ideas. I like the Persian flavor in the first pen drawing although there is a drawing problem in the area of the girl's right underarm that distracts and maybe too much of the drawing is made up of repeated design motifs without relation or significance to the girl.

    And just as a general note, you seem to be better at line drawing out of your imagination than when you try to fake form and lighting. I think you would get great benefit out of George Bridgman's anatomy books. Many artists copy them line for line in their notebooks in order to learn form (and thus lighting).

    The charcoal life drawing of the guy with his hand in his pocket (under the red eye monkey pen and ink) is very fresh. The swordswoman next to him on the other hand looks posed and is drawn stiffly.

    The pirate picture and a lot of your other illustrations suffer from a lack of compositional thought and the brushwork can't cover that up. Maybe you should read Loomis on the basics of composition. I think somebody on this site has links to that info. Maybe somebody else can offer a more comprehensive treatise on composition for you to learn from.

    Good luck,
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanimal View Post
    i am a chinese ,graduating from the central academy of drama beijing.
    my major is stage design.

    very intense. and i agree not porn- fanstasy. and i do like all the anatomy. and haha your a freak!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingshaj
    this is art and that’s rare...reminds me that the rest of us are just conceptual illustrators..............yes reader, you too.
    That is a cheap useless polemic.
    Some of the greatest artist of every time, like Michelangelo Buonarroti, have clients (patrons), commissions (hey Mike, please paint the ceiling of my church) and great money payment, so come on...don't try to create ranks here, there is just some different attitudes and some different purposes.
    Art can comes out from a payed piece or from personal stuff, and is not essential doing things thinking "now I DO ART!" or spreading clearly some strong emotions on the board to be sure that people get shocked and recognize the ART.

    Quote Originally Posted by spiritform
    Probably another reason why people are so in awe by his work here is because he is a non-conformist and don't really give a fuck what any of us thinks
    Oh come on! This thread have more than 250 replies whit 99% positive feedback and 4 stars rating! If this works was really anti-conformist they can't have this kind of popularity.
    It's really easy driving people to thinking that you are an Artist.
    I don't want to criticize Wanimal, I think that he's enjoying whit his works (and that is a strongly important thing) and whit readers of his thread; and that is cool. The only thing I feel to say is that Wanimal can comes down in the place and talking whit his fans, not just comes out for a little when someone are not happy about his picture. That's all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Camara
    This is ART????If this is art,I make art everytime I go to the WC.
    I think that a guy anticipate you ;-] But i think also that you can agree whit his messages, especially on the last work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wanimal View Post
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    i just took photos with the dead cat,which i saw by the road

    It's none of my business that how you feel how you think

    are you a communist guy or a North Korea ?
    I´ve got photos of my girlfriend,my parents,my house,my car.......do I have to put them here???This is conceptART,and you are sick if you think that a picture of a dead cat in the side of the road is art.I don´t know why you put that picture here.Is offensive.I am not communist,neither Korean,I´m spanish.I like some of your work,but I don´t know why are those photos in your thread.Don´t insult me because I don´t like your work.Art is what you create....not going to the road and take a photo (by the way,a simple ugly photo,nothing special) of a poor dead cat........and I think that there are a photography and modeling forums......oh,wait!!!!a bird´s shit is on my car´s window!!!I´m goig to take a photo of it!Next I will post it here and say that this is ART!!!!......
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    Camara, if you really want to critique sensationalistic work, the best thing to do is yawn at it.

    A yawn is the antidote.

    By angrily protesting, you fall into the trap the provacateur has set and you become "part of his art process".

    Like in a "ring and run" prank, if the home owner doesn't come to the door and shake his fist in anger, the joke isn't complete.

    Ignore the doorbell. Yawn. Repeat.

    Best,
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    continue !!!!
    hahahahaha
    so funny
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    OH!! HA HA HA! I AM BE MANIPULATE BY YOU! HA HA HA.

    Actually, this is one of your better pieces. I like the expression and freedom a lot. The left hand is awkward though. It might be the anatomy on the thumb. Again you should study Bridgman's books. Especially his book of 100 hands.

    Do they have Bridgman's books over there?

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    Thank you for your suggestions

    Bridgman ~ wonderful !!!
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