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    hello again BludHund

    a big thank for your big critic and advices.

    i'm following your suggestion for an unfair crit: - YOU ARE SERIOUSLY IN TROUBLE WHEN DRAWING YOUR FIGURES ! hahaha, no that's too much !
    no seriously:
    -i'm seeing some short legs, perhaps coz you're drawing normals people from life, but when drawing for illustration, always use the 8 head proportions and the ideal canon.
    -try to use charcoal pencil or carbon pencil to get high contrast and more confidence (not that you haven't, but the more the better)
    -when forshortening, try to use overlapping lines forming a T depicting the flesh or muscles. don't miss any occasion to use it. see attached img.
    -DRAW BIG, BIG very BIG. no seriously A3 for one figure is fair.
    -when drawing fom life, try the 10 min gestures and also the long pose (in case you can ask the model for it) you should do the two in the same day.
    -you too should draw some (big) cubes and cylinder

    hope it's not too unfair.

    good luck with your nexts

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    zou -

    That's more like it! Everyone needs reminders, or a good shake-up now and then.

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    Some kinda chase scene. Any advice? Gotta add some more details before I start rendering, but I have no idea if the perspective or composition is okay.

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    Long time no visit, great to be back.
    This os one of THE promosing sketchbooks out here,
    i love watch how people progress, wait how it went..."from zero to a hero"?
    nevermind you get the point, best wishes !

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    You're making great progress here. You mention your problems being time and attitude. I'd say that attitude is the most important of the 2. When you adopt a more positive and willing attitude (which you seem to have done given the rise in output you've been generating these last few weeks) then many things start falling into place. Openings seem to appear out of nowhere and you begin to notice things that work to your benefit that were always; they may have even been right in front of your eyes all this time!

    So long as you stay committed to the routine you've got going here, you'll be fine. It may take some time, but it builds character in the long run. I apologize for the very general feedback that I am giving you here so I'll leave you with something more specific...

    Next time you have a block of time set aside for art, I'd recommend working on only one piece and giving the short sketches a break. A master copy would be nice to see.

    All the best!

    PS: Your latest piece has some good rough sketching going on, good enough for an underdrawing. However, I do think you need to do more work on the perspective, unless that's more or less the composition you were going for.

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    hi bludhund

    although i don't know the story behind it i made a quick paint-over with my limited knowledge.

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    yo mate, nice to see u playing with composition and stuff that force u to test your skills and repair them

    zou gave great tips and from my side i played a little with the composition, setting up some figures on a perspective

    keep up the great work

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    Thanks for the advise and encouragement guys, I'll get back to ya individually a bit later.

    Quick one this morning before the family woke up

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    hey man! ur studies are really coming along! I like your head/skull studies the most. The structure is well placed. I'm trying to figure skulls out myself. Keep going!

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    poetry man - Thanks.

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    Nothing much, just getting the wheels spinning again, looking for rusty spots.

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    Thanks for all the paintovers guys. I'm going to go back to Loomis to get some insight on the perspective.

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    Icecold -

    Ack, flattery! My ego is growing too large...hehe. Hope I can inspire people, I suppose.

    Mr.Pryminista -

    All points well taken. Not 100% sure about doing a master copy, but I'll definitely work on some longer pieces.

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    Yeah...no story. A guy being chased by two other guys Thanks for the advice. The middle guy probably needs a complete re-work.

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    Thanks.

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    A little extra crap tonight:

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    Sure hope 2011 brings a bit more productivity.

    On the agenda:

    work on chase scene

    some more portraits

    some more drapery studies

    still life / lighting and rendering (when I can get it set up...right now my desk faces the wall )

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    making a bit more sense now. Horizon line = useful.

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    Checking the values scheme.

    Next: drape the figures...and add features/details

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    Figure drawing tomorrow nite...gonaa be rusty

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    You're studies are way over intellectualized. All those diagrams are just ways of analyzing the facts that compose a drawing. You have head diagrams where you're drawing ellipses and measuring in perspective, I don't think anyone can draw like that. Draw directly, analyse later.

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    The last rough painting is has interesting lightening and perspective. The guy on the right(our right) seems to be stretch out a bit much from the waist up.

    Here's seem quick photo reference, that maybe of some help.

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    armando - Yes.

    Pigeonkill - Thanks!

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    two minutes and five minutes

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    ten minutes

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    twenty minutes (enough time to really screw up )

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    Proportional problems? I think so.

    Erika always makes me feel slooow...excellent stuff

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    Invalid attachments????

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    Your line work is improving immensely, good to see you using photo refs for your piece, and you're really taking the time to work out your composition. These are all great signs.

    I personally think you should change the pose/gesture of the second figure (mid ground) in your composition. Instead of his whole body (with the exception of his left arm) suggesting an implied line running out of the right hand frame, have his whole flip around have all the visual energy pointed towards the foreground figure. This, of course, is just a suggestion. If that was too hard to explain, I can do a paint over. Let me know.

    You're doing a great job!

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    yeah! your improving - lovely sketchbook hope to see more soon, hope to see some colors aswell

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    Okay, making more dynamic images. I like. Really pulls it all together. I would like to see it rendered out to a high level here though (including digi color painting). Great studies as usual. Really ale to capture the gesture in the very short time period.

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    Mr.Pryminista -

    Ahhh...you're giving me too much credit, but thanks.

    I understand what you're saying about the middle figure, I know he's kinda not right, but I haven't worked out what I'm gonna do about it yet.

    xbert -

    Thanks. Colors, yes. Colors are fun.

    liquidjack -

    Thanks. Yes it will be rendered out, I'm gnawing on it steadily

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    Just some quick figure sketches today, sorry

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    like i said before the figure drawing stuff is reaally nice. i hope to draw so effectively soon

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    Whacchutalkinbout feeling lazy? You do a hell of a lot more stuff then i did. I can't give you any useful critiques but you are doing great man, just keep doing those anatomy and figure studies, they are looking really great.

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    Jason Scanlon -

    Thanks man. Time and attitude, time and attitude.

    LordVenom -

    Well...you're being too kind. I want to do more, know I could do more.
    I get impatient and nervous and generally psych myself out

    Thanks for the encouragement, guys.

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    well this boring crap isn't going to turn to gold by me sitting on it any longer:

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    Sorry to be dull...I'll be back with a vengeance!

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    Thanks so much for the feedback man, you pointed out the little things that I dont really see in my work. Slowing down will definitely better my sketching skill. Now off to do some life drawing. Keep it up, the vengeance you've bought it!

    In post 422, i really like the composition you chose, i can see the flow from back to front. the new ones are good and eye catching but i still prefer the other composition. Perhaps it's my noobsness but i cant see anything wrong with it.

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    Jaunay -

    Thanks.

    Glad I could help. Can't wait to see them life drawings .

    The problems with 422 isn't the composition but the perspective,
    its like the background figures are floating in space.

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    hey dude decent studies I see here definitely good effort. do something finishes maybe? a high render or something would be nice!

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    Danny_K -

    Thanks. I will do that.

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    life drawings from last night:

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    drapery invention

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    Keep it up! Nice studies so far, and they'll definitely pay off. It would be nice to see some finished pieces/see you take something to the next level, though!

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    Amarok -

    Thanks for visiting my SB, Amarok! Yes I need to push myself more, you are correct.

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