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October 27th, 2006 #1
it can happen here...
Thought I'd post a bit of inflammatory comments. I don't often watch TV (don't have cable at home) and so news reach me through the net (when I bother) or through family and friends and occasionally I see it on TV when a guest in someones house. Quite often the news is about how USA is slowly becoming an imperial power or a fascist state. You read some posts around here and it's quite often something or other that the Dubya Administration is doing wrong. Well today I heard about Cheney's torture remark.
Anyway, the thing it reminded me of is this book called "It can't happen here".
I don't know if anyone here has read it or not but I think that although people make fun of alarmists it's a good analogy to what is happening in US today. I'm not implying that it would happen exactly the same way as in the book, but I am saying that believing that it can't happen here is like putting on a pair of blinders and chanting to yourself that everything is ok while the freedoms that US is founded upon are ever so slowly being pulled from under you. Anyway enough ranting... read the book if you like.Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
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Oh forgot about this... Support the good CauseEat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
October 27th, 2006 #3
yeah well whether its a 'law' or not.. things happen that will happen.. and so long as no one knows, no reason to bring it up.. besides, ironically, most of the 'news' thats reported to the public is all tainted and controlled anyway.it's only after you've lost everything, that you're free to do anything..
October 27th, 2006 #4
You sound kind of ... fatalistic.Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
October 27th, 2006 #5
from that article, a quote by bush:
We will interrogate people we pick up off the battlefield to determine whether or not they've got information that will be helpful to protect the country,"
October 27th, 2006 #6Originally Posted by JAG.
n. pl. de·moc·ra·cies
1.Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.
2.A political or social unit that has such a government.
3.The common people, considered as the primary source of political power.
5.The principles of social equality and respect for the individual within a community.
October 27th, 2006 #7
de-ceit [di-seet] Pronunciation Key –noun
n. adj. de-ceit-ful
1. the act or practice of deceiving; concealment or distortion of the truth for the purpose of misleading; duplicity; fraud; cheating: Once she exposed their deceit, no one ever trusted them again.
2. an act or device intended to deceive; trick; stratagem.
3. the quality of being deceitful; duplicity; falseness: a man full of deceit.
[Origin: 1225–75; ME deceite < AF, OF, n. use of fem. of deceit, ptp. of deceivre to deceive]it's only after you've lost everything, that you're free to do anything..
October 27th, 2006 #8
Guess you'd be voting for the Democrats in the mid-term election?
Won't an impeachment take a long time? Bush has only two years left anyway. Besides, I'm pretty sure no one's in a hurry to be the next president of USA right now, I can't imagine how anyone can properly resolve the Iraqi quagmire.
October 27th, 2006 #9
Person A: How else can we get needed information from terrorists then to use persuasive methods which (mentally) break them, allowing us to extract valuable information which can help save the lives of innocents?
Person B: Torture is inhumaine and has no place in a civilized society. You can't defeat fire with fire.
Both people are right. This is a sad reality. Choose your poison, both opinions lead to the death of innocent lives.My work: [link]
October 27th, 2006 #10
Originally Posted by Blue
October 28th, 2006 #11Originally Posted by JAG.
that comeback gave me a good chuckle
I think people have a way of making things black and white cutt and paste... But human nature is just a big gray spot. Sometimes bad things happen to other people for a means to an end... sometimes their right in doing so because of circumstance and other times their wrong.... What we see as right one day we can totally disagree with the next. In politics and opinion... I think you walk a fine line of choosing the lesser of 2 evils.
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October 28th, 2006 #12
Thanks lapalida looks like an interesting read.
A lot of people use the president as the poster boy for the supposed problems we are having in this country. One thing about this book though is it was written in 1935, when the president (I'm not to sure) could be voted into office more than twice. If it was like that today, then ofcourse I think it could be possible we would end up like that. I'm not one of those people who plug their ears and sing to themselves, but I try not to take things to far on either side because at the moment I'm very skeptical of any groups intentions.
Besides, it's only 2 more years, I'm sure we'll be fine. But, it's good to have all these people covering these issues. It keeps people on their toes, just cut it out with smear campaigns already and provide some more objective/thoughtful information for a change, damn. It's like little kids on television repeatedly calling each other stupid.
October 28th, 2006 #13Person A: How else can we get needed information from terrorists then to use persuasive methods which (mentally) break them, allowing us to extract valuable information which can help save the lives of innocents?
Last edited by LaPalida; October 28th, 2006 at 03:55 AM.Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
October 28th, 2006 #14I'm not one of those people who plug their ears and sing to themselves, but I try not to take things to far on either side because at the moment I'm very skeptical of any groups intentions.Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die.
October 28th, 2006 #15
Ofcourse! But it seems very unlikely.
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