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October 12th, 2006 #1
My artwork was taken and used, but...
Hey guys some guy i don't know took my artwork for his website, and he wants to use it on dvds for a skateboard movie. The thing is, he wrote me an email after he had it on his website, asking if he could use it, and if not he will remove it, also he asked for the full uncompressed file, if i said he could use it.
Im not sure if i should just say yes he can use it, or say no, or charge him to use it. The video looks alright, im a skateboarder myself so i can tell the video has some potential, but im still not sure what to do.
This was the site he used it on, and a tralier for the video is on there too http://www.shiftyproductions.com/
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I belive theres no reason to fuck with them by charge them for useing your stuff, at least he asks, and he says they take it away if you dont think its cool?
I think theres nothing to fight about, let em use it, or just say no, they are not allowed to use it!
October 12th, 2006 #3
Either ask for money, or ask for them to put up a link to your website, or do some other bit of publicity for you. Don't let them use the art for free, because they need to learn that using first and asking later isn't kosher.I think you are awesome, and I wish you the best in your endeavors, but I am tired of repeating myself, I am very busy with my new baby, and I am no longer a regular participant here, so please do not contact me to ask for advice on your career or education. All of the advice that I have to offer can already be found in the following links. Thank you.
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October 12th, 2006 #4
Nothing wrong with free publicity. I wouldn't bill them for it , as they actually asked your permission to use it, (despite posting the picture before your reply). No harm done. Do as Seedling suggests as well, get them to post a link to your website.
October 12th, 2006 #5
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Maybe this be one of those instances where it'd be good to send them an invoice for a work, but at a 100% discount, so they see what something like this would normally cost in case they choose to hire you at a later time...
October 12th, 2006 #8
i agree with seedline, they need to learn it's not cool to just take something that doesn't belong to them and use it without permission.
(that's called stealing) :0
i'd say charge them a small fee and let them use it, but not until they've paid.
this kind of thing can't be tolerated by anyone in this industry, cause it can harm us all.
if i spend a ton of hours on something, and it gets used without my being compensated, i'd be rather pissed.
if you used their video and claimed it was your creation, and sold it for your profit, they'd probably be pissed too.
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nice video, though i agree that they should give credits for the stuff theyre using. the music is by VAST for instance, and they dont mention that anywhere either. hes got some nice graphic design and editing though, and his camera work is clean. id say this is worth having your stuff in for promo purposes, as long as he gives you due credit.
i didnt see any artwork anywhere though, where is it?
October 12th, 2006 #10
October 12th, 2006 #11
I agree about the discounted invoice, you can also ask for a handful of dvd's. You can keep one to show off and the others might make nice presents if you have skater friends (and good promo for them, they shouldn't argue too much)
October 13th, 2006 #12
Thanks for your input guys, he has now told me he is a 1 man production, he is in college, and he isn't going to sell the dvd, just give it out around town. And show it on the internet... Is that even good publicity for me... Should i just say no.
October 13th, 2006 #13
I'd pretty much go along with everybody here, because this kid sounds young and stupid, BUT...
Whatever you decide, politely and diplomatically state in the first paragraph of your letter to him that it is NOT proper under any circumstances to use someone's art without ASKING FIRST, not afterwards. If he's trying to be a professional, he should learn how one acts first...No position or belief, whether religious, political or social, is valid if one has to lie to support it.--Alj Mary
Ironically, the concept of SIMPLICITY is most often misunderstood by simple-minded people. --Alj Mary
October 13th, 2006 #14
you don't have anything to lose by letting him use it, especially if you don't object to the product (as you said you're a skateboarder yourself). If it costs you no work and he's not even selling them, why be a dick about it? You never know, it might end up in the hands of somebody who would want to comission something from you. I say get credit printed on it and ask for some free copies or something, but I don't see any reason to turn down some free exposure, even if it is limited.
And who knows, maybe it'll be more popular than expected and you'll get your work seen by people who wouldn't have access otherwise.
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Just to add to what DavePalumbo wrote. Exposure is good as long as the quality of your work shows. If he photoshop-filter-rapes your work or does something that doesn't fit your standard then getting money can be better than a link or exposure.
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