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    Great sketchbook man! Your little tutorial inspired me to buy some watercoclors myself - i tried a bit; now i admire you even more! Keep going!

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    ::bartovan:: Thank you!

    a self portraint study to find a good color scheme for the oil version.

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    Wow, such light there is in this doodle
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...1&d=1176394024

    I like the last picture! So you start out with water colors before hitting the oils? Like a underpaint?

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    You are amazing my friend. If your dedication is not enough, you blow me out with your progress in water color, and painting. Really some thing keep strong with it you are deffently heading in the right direction.

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    ::Wasker:: Eh thank you. The watercolor is not an underspainting, its just to experiment with colors to find something I like. I can go faster and I dont have to stretch a canvas everytime I dont like Sargent did it for a lot of his oils, and because I have such no personality I am just doing like him I know Frazetta was doing that too.

    ::seth1::Thank you!

    A pencil study for the same project.

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    nice work! These two self portraits are very different, ie: the the pencil seems much more accurate but the water color to me is much more interesting with the distortion. I can't wait to see which way you go with the oil version. Have you ever thought to try acrylics?

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    The last two self portrats are looking good.

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    ::Ham-e:: I am aiming for a mix of the two. Watercolor was a plan for color and values, pencil for shapes...

    ::Bojee:: Thank you!

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    nice sps dude, the linework is solid. liek the soft skin you portray on the face.
    Some questions again. WEll questions about wet in wet washes. I tried doing them but ahd horrible results.ANy suggestions how to approach them?
    Thanks for reading, and for the paintings.

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    ::Bhanu::HI! About wet-in-wet... its all about timing. Watercolor, and I see it better now that I try oils, demands a lot of planning. If you plan to combine dry brush and wet-in-wet MAKE a PLAN! I recommand starting with the WIW regions and let it completely dry before doing drybrush. If you dont want to have a precise plan, there is something really fun to do. This is what I have been doing in the still lifes I did recently. I wettede the whole sheet and start painting first the big shapes (but still there is a minimum of planning) then the more the sheet dry the more you can go to detail or reinforce darks (because we are all wusses not using enough pigment).

    Be sure to have a box of paper tissues and USE THEM to erase soften and dry a region. A soaked pigmented area will be stopped by a more dry paper. Do a couple of thoses and you will learn a lot on Wet-in-wet. I certainly did. At first its frightening but as soon as you get that its more plastic than dry brush the fun kick in.

    have fun!

    another session on the self portrait...damn I look so serious, I just look like that when Im looking a 24 episode, playing in an orchestra or painting a self portrait I suppose...

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    i realise it might be because of the unfinished state but i'm diggin the more painterly marks in there. would be nice if you could retain and amplify that.

    edit - i think the watercolour version kicks ass.

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    nice work! i like most of your watercolors (who doesn't?), your oil works are steadily getting better. it seems to me that you are using photo refs for most of your paintings, am i right?

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    Solon! You're working with oils hehe *claps

    Nice work so far and awesome watercolors as always - I'm mystified by your simplicity and feel for the color. :3

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    I have some experience in watercolors, used it a lot a few years ago, and it's in my opinion, one of the hardest media, when it comes to keeping the lines very simple yet very dynamic and expressive.

    I must say that these paintings of yours are amazing
    You make it look so easy!
    They inspire a lot, thanks for sharing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tensai
    i realise it might be because of the unfinished state but i'm diggin the more painterly marks in there. would be nice if you could retain and amplify that.

    edit - i think the watercolour version kicks ass.
    I agree, I really like how your oils start, sometimes some of the freshness gets lost in the refinement.

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    Hah, nice hair, reminds me of my own, except yours doesn't flip out at the sides.

    Serious, maybe. I think you look a little superior, like you're thinking, "What fools. They know not yet what awaits them. Fufufufu."

    Heh.

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    ::tensai:: I totally agree with you. Its a learning thing. I love painterly but I hate to do it because I cant do otherwise (is that a well constructed phrase???) Anyway, when I feel I have a grip on the medium I will for sure loosen up because its the way I see.

    ::saa:: Eh, of course I am using photoref. Not for all, there is a lot of self portraits and girfriend portrait because I can do it live!! Same for still life but my idea is thats its better to work an image and try to understant how it works from photoref that to skip a day without painting and to do that i have to have FUN, anything goes when I need to have fun

    ::naomiful:: Thank you!!!

    ::Noukah:: Thank you for passing by!!

    ::Bojee:: I agree, its a learning thing, freshness will come see what I responded to Tensai...

    ::drd:: I know...There is something about self-portraits and seriousness, oh well, I started it like that. Next time ill try to have the smile I have when opening one of those magnificent bags of Doritos spiced....mmmm...it should look a lot better!

    Another quickie just to see how I can do when I am drunk. Its a 400bc greek helmet. I want to paint an Iliad scene soon so I figured why dont start the studies! Tommorow Ill wake-up to discover that I painted a smurf.

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    wow thats how you are drunk damn dude. I wish I could be as drunk as you? too bad I am only good for brawls after being drunk, so I avoid it.really beautiful man. thanks for the advice on WIW though. Will try to show the results.

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    hey man, I really like your watercolors. daaaango

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    painting when youre drunk huh? hah.. thats pretty good for being wastoid
    where any of those pics i sent a while ago worth any value to you to paint a quick study? if they were all crap, then its all good, im enjoying your shit either way

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    ::bhanu:: thank you. The trick is to have very good canadian whiskey. Actually I had a headache this morning.

    ::minjarr:: Thank you!

    ::Caustic:: Eh thank you. If they are still online I may do (a fast) one tonight but its because its you.

    Its finally sunny up here!! Went outdoor in the park with colors to paint some landscape and my wife on a blanket resting after her jog.

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    The last three are grrrreat!

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    Hah! If I tried painting something drunk It'd end up like Jackson ****ing Pollock's .(Hate that man btw)

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    The helmet painting looks great! nice rendering of the material. and this one http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...1&d=1177192727 is nice to, I like the areas that are in shade.

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    Your watercolor are wonderful!!

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    ahh just beautiful updates, umm thanks for th pointers again , tried them and this time it all was abit easier.
    Great going sir.

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    ::Bojee::thank you!

    ::drd::not with GOOD CANADIAN WHISKEY!!!Pollock its more like, rubbish gin.

    ::Ham-e::Thank you for comment!

    ::deltron05::Thank you!

    ::bhanu::Thank you, dont give up! Its a tough ride, especially wet-in-wet, I dont think you ever controling water but it so fun.

    quickie...

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    haha sick! i love it. it looks just like me. you rock dude

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    hey solon,
    Umm so I am posting again to get some crits. WOuld love to listen to your comments on it.
    Here are some paintings.





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    ::bhanu:: Thats some huge progress you are doing! Bravo!

    As general comment you have to be careful about descriptive straight lines. Horizon, table...see it this way: What makes you understand its a table? Not much, first quality of a table in a still life is "theres a straight line" actually, you could remove any color, shapes and values and just draw a straight pencil somewhere in the lower part of your still live and everybody will understand the "table". Same goes with the lake/horizon. What describe horizon first? A straight line. Sargent would often use a ruler. I like you, not using one (principally because I am lazy and secondly because I want every opportunity to learn to draw a straight line freeehand) But I try to make it as good a possible when its the principal descriptive quality of an object.

    Lets take a vine bottle for example: If you get the viewer to understanf that : this is a still life, there is a table with things on it, there is some food, oranges, bread, then even if there is straight lines in your bottle, what will describe it the best will be color (not even color, if its full it can be anything as long as its really dark), shiny (highlight) and a somewhat overall shape that looks like a bottle.

    Anyway, I love the teapot, its amazingly well drawed and modeled, somewhere in the process you lost freshness and colors went on the dull side. There is solutions to avoid this:

    1)wait until the wash is completely dry before painting another layer

    2)or use plenty of pigment in a wet-in-wet area.

    3)do your brushstrokes 1 TIME and leave it this way!

    4)dont do little dabbing, dab, dab,dab

    5)plan aheah before doing your painting to reduce the thinking time when you actually paint. (this works so well for playing music)

    6)black (i guess ivory black) is killing color, if you are not Manet, try to avoid it. Neutral Tint would be a decent but still a bit killing alternative. Sepia and pyrylène green are others. Best is to mix dark complements like burnt umber and ultramarine blue.

    In the architectural/2 womens I understand you wanted to go fast wich is good but in the way you were not patient enough and it ended with whites contours everywhere! I guess because you didnt want regions to bleed. Try to have a better plan, let a region dry, or glaze. The result of all those white contours is that you actually killing any white you would want to use as a highlight of imply as a compositional element.

    Also, in the windows... dark are THE PLACE TO GO WILD. An idea would be to drop you evil ivory black but then adding any color you like in it wet-in-wet to make it mysterious instead of flat.

    The bikini girl is pretty nice! You should look at Alberto Vargas watercolors. Look for it on internet...you will possibly dont believe its watercolor but it is and es the master at this "form lightning" where most edges are dark getting to define the form in a gradient way to the "highlight". I tried one time to copy one, ...disaster. I dont know what you mixed for the skin tones but if its not burnt sienna, you worked a lot more than needed (im kidding, only result is important not the way you get to this color).

    Landscape is good except for that lake line that kills me. Also I am not sure if I should see clouds or snowy mountains in the background. You didnt found the "what makes me understand what I see" (I am thinking about copywriting this one lol.

    It really great to see your progres! Keep posting..

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