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    ::Art-Addict:: Thanks! I am waiting this summer and try ladscape on location. Cant wait but we recieved about 30 cm of snow yesterday so it will take a while

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    ::Minjal:: Eh! Lucky you to have all this material, if you dont want it, sent it to me! Its so expensive those tubes...

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    fast Zorn study. My god there is NO VALUES on his paintings what can I do!

    Watercolor on quarter sheet, with red and white gouache. How come she ended up with such a small head...sorry bout that!

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    Beautiful watercolors my friend. I'm very impressed. Watercolor is such a hard medium! Thanks for stopping by my SB.

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    Nice! Watercolours are a tough medium.. .I've never been able to get the hang of them.. but you do so admirably. Really fun to look at.

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    Eh thank you guys for passing by!!!

    A late doodle today, a la art nouveau.

    India ink and watercolor on cotton sheet.

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    Two posts in one day, someones keeping busy. I really like the lighting in the Zorn piece. Something about the last one doesn't have me thinking art nouveau. I think it's the color choices, but it seems much more contemporary ( like a "Nagel"), which is not necessarily a bad thing, but it depends how true to the style you wanted to be.

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    wow thanks for th tutorials in teh last page I gonna try them for sure tonight. the latest zorn and art noveau update are beautiful.
    umm I have a question when mixing colors A lot of time they endlooking muddy.how can I get over that?

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    ::Bhanu:: Eh thanks for passing by! There is a couple of things you can do to avoid muddy:

    1)Mix a maximum of 3 colors on your palette. 2 if possible is even better.

    2)Clean your palette often, try to keep your colors clean (you clean your colors with a water spray)

    3)Use the minimum of washes possible. If you can do what you want without glazing, do it. Watercolor is like golf, each stroke count against you.

    4)If you do glaze, wait until the preceeding wash is completely dry.

    5)Get the value you want on the first shot, dont try to make it darker while its still wet.

    hope this give you ideas. Show me the results if you try the tut.

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    Hello !
    thought i'd return the favor.
    The watercolours are looking great. Especially the first one in this page.
    The skintone and lighting a beautiful.
    Great stuff monsieur, so keep posting !

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    :anielC:: eh thank you!

    another try at this

    India ink and watercolor on cotton sheet.

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    Nice, this one feels better, I love the face. I think this one is much stronger, IMO. Thanks for sharing.

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    30 minutes self-portrait. Me doing silly face. argg.


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    amaizing stuff man .... I didn't know that watercolors are so beautiful

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    ::MCL!on:: Thank you! I think that there is just too much people painting waterlilies and cottages with watercolor, thats alll, its a medium like any other.


    Am I alone to have dreamed of this all my childhood?

    watercolor on cotton sheet.

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    Maybe I post too much? Sorry, my wife was out of town for the last week...a man need to do somethin! PAINT!!

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    Hey. Great work. I've always been tempted by water colour, but colour in general scares me a little.

    Was looking at your tips, seems like common sense now that you've explained about letting things dry before wading in. Maybe I'm low on common sense.

    I think I've always maybe been in too much of a rush.

    Anyway. Cheers. You've got some amazing technical ability there. I'll stay tuned.

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    Great watercolors solon! you have a knack of getting the most important details down. Reminds me of Justin sweet's watercolors. Check them out if you haven't already!

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    Thanks for the advice , I saw I do a lot 'donots' in your list. I will avoid them from now on.and yeah I will folow your tutorial tonight and perhaps tomorrow I might show you the results. wish me luck. btw how is it working on cotton sheet with watercolors I havent ried it but it looks intriguing.

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    ::JPW:: thanks for passing by! The trick with drying time is to work on another portion of your work while something is drying. Also to see how dry it is you turn your paper in a way you can see if there is reflection or not. If it is mat, wait 2 minutes and go youre ready. If its shiny...dont!

    :keif::Eh you are comparing me to a great artist! I like that! I knew his work and love it. I think hes going further in abstraction with his watercolor wich is nice!

    ::Bhanu::Eh thanks! I am looking worward to see the try. If you have any questions dont hesitate.

    Today 2 try at landscape, one is a Zorn study I did some time ago and the other a simple landscape I did today to try a new solution. All watercolor.

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    nice stuff, keep updating

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    ::chrishly:: Eh thanks for passing by...Ill keep updating dont worry, painting almost everydau since a year.

    Another one. Direct painting no glazing about 45 min.

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    Another bunch of great updates sir,
    Well So I got down to your tut and realized I dint have any cadmium red on me. ANd seperate colors dont get sold around my area so I have to go a it far to buy it. still I folowed the tut but then i saw I coudlnt understand some instructions, I think that both you and I hav english as a second language.
    So I drew the not so handsome subject(that is not mysef). got it pretty accurate .then I made some puddles of colors a shade of red and cobalt blue.ans I used the colors alternately for the tones.But Ic oundlt understnad this.
    Where you see warm, use cadmium, when you see cold use cobalt/cerulean
    and then this
    This is watercolor, it dries lighter and your stuck with the light to dark construction.
    then I painted the shirt.
    then I mixed the colors.blue and red that is.
    and then I coudlnt understand how to do this
    Start your brush where its the darker and then rinse, remove water with the sponge and drag the pigment wherever you want
    and I also coudlnt understnad how to do this either
    To soften an edge need practice but basically there should be less water in your brush than in the edge to be softened. Start your brush in the white paper and meet the moist paint.
    Man I sound liek a complete noob after this. But It would really great if you help me out here. thanks for the tuts again. and thanks for tolerating a noob like me.

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    Never mind the tiny head FREAKING ASUM modeling of light!!
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...5&d=1173034919
    Oh and really good lighting study!
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...0&d=1173280062
    your are becoming my fav watercolor painter sir
    I just saw your older updates, man you really know how to handle your lights and edges
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...0&d=1172726110
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...4&d=1172868072
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/att...3&d=1172702137
    Im just utterly speechless, most impressive use of light.

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    ::Mentler:: Thanks so much for passing by Michael.

    ::Maxetormer:: Thank you!

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    Here my frinend I will try to answer you.

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    Where you see warm, use cadmium, when you see cold use cobalt/cerulean

    Warm color are yellow, oranges, watever is on the yellow side. Cold color are wathever on the blue side to put it really simply. But you could say a cold red for a red that have a blue tendency and a warm red for a red that would have a yellow tendency. Cadmium red happend to be an "orangy" red but here this first wash is really about having variations of your blue puddle and your red puddle as the basis of your skin tone. Dont worry that much about color temperature, focus on VALUES...

    and then this

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    This is watercolor, it dries lighter and your stuck with the light to dark construction.

    To build an image with watercolor (without gouache) there is only 2 basic ways.

    1)you pile up layers one over the other one starting with the lightest ones to the darker ones. Working with oils you could do the opposite, starting with the darkest darks and finishing with highligts wich is somewhat more natural, especially on dark completions. But watercolor because you dont use "white" your light values are light because of the white of the paper so you gradually build up on it. as an example you could start with the skin in the light, then skin in the shadow transition the finally the shadow.

    2)you can work directly getting the right value and the right color on the right spot. This method does not use the transparent advantage of watercolor but can give really fresh colors and its a FANTASTIC excercise to stop using your color in a faded overwashed way.




    then I painted the shirt.
    then I mixed the colors.blue and red that is.
    and then I coudlnt understand how to do this

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    A) Add a "splotch" of color

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    Rinse your brush, get rid of the excess water but not too much (this IS the hard thing) and from the "sploch" drag with your brush the color where you want it to go. Put down your initial "splotch" on the darkest spot of you model and spread from that.

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    and I also coudlnt understnad how to do this either

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    To soften an edge need practice but basically there should be less water in your brush than in the edge to be softened. Start your brush in the white paper and meet the moist paint.

    Softening edge is hard but when you get it its one of the watercolor marvels. You can do in one brush stroke what you need hours to do with oil.

    Here is the basic method:

    While your color is still wet (you have to work fast) rinse your brush and with a kleenex, or sponge or shaking it get it you have less moisture in it than there is on the color you want to soften. Then start from the clean paper to just touching the edge of the color you want to soften. If you have too much water in your brush, the color will flow too much and you will end up only with a bigger hard-edged shape. If you dont have enough water in your brush you will not allow the color to flow at all. Its all about timing and control of moisure in your brush. I urge you to always keep a synthetin sponge to adjust the moisture on you brush. After a while you can just "feel" the amount of water in your brush.


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    I realize I write all of this so badly. Soon I will write something with photos on edge softening since its so useful.

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    great tutorial!! personaly i never painted in watercolour, i guess i go to store buy it i try something thx for inspiring with such great works .. keep sharing plz

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    great tutorials man, very helpful! lovely watercolours anyway, do you allways work from photos though? or are some of these from life?

    keep it up!

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    Wow great thread and tutorial Solon. I think i will have to try some water experiments soon after looking at all this. You are quite fast it seems.
    Have you ever tried to use watercolor pencils? Seems to be an interesting medium
    Keep sharing these

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    I missed a few, they're getting better and better.

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    Thanks so much for the clarifications. I understand more now , but I guess application of knowledge comes with practice. I will really try to follow this and the last tutorial hard.and I will you the (no matter how atrocious) hehe.
    I know I will have a lot of questions later when I follow the tut.
    THanks for all the help sir. And I also have a question do you plan to amke a video tutorial for watercolors.

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    I love your watercolors and I really appreciate the tutorials. I'm taking a watercolor class right now. It's hard, but I'm enjoying it quite a lot.

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    Eh, it seems this thread does not worth 5 stars anymore Ill have to call my psy tomorrow...

    ::Call0ps::Thank you!

    ::archipelago::Eh thanks for passing by! I am doing from life and from photo ref. Todays is draw from life and painted halffrom life halffrom mind.I am trying to use my own photos when possible. Of course, I could not photograph any star wars things myself. Some stuff is also fromlife drawing class that I redraw and paint.

    :onaj:: EH thank you! I tried watercolor pencils.I still use it from time to time for monochrome studies but because you end up using a brush anyway I prefer tubes, plus its hard to get an infinite ga,ut of hues with pencils.

    ::Bojee:: Eh thanks!

    ::bhanu:: Eh, cant wait to see your try. Please dont worry about asking anything. Ill answer the best I can.

    ::Gilead:: You are right, watercolor are a pain to master. You cant imagine how much stuff I wreck because of a bad brushstroke or because I had bad timing...but in the end...when it works I love it so much...wich does not mean I dont want to use anything else...I have my eyes on the full rembrant pastel set

    Today, tried some new solutions. (another way to soten darks edges with a stiff straight brush to not have too much watercolory hard edges)

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