Really need critiques here, I want to learn coloring (update 28/9/2006)
I am a anime artist for a long long time, now I want to change my style I want to approach oil painting style but at the same time maintain the line work feeling sounds stupid but I love line too much although I am not good at it too. So please give me critiques I will try to finish this piece in here step by step. All critiques are welcom thanks for you guys.
Ideas: I hate all characters are seperated into good and bad, even Medusa, to me she can be a very innocent girl who just wants to survive sorry don't really know the story of her a lot, so I plan to make a picture which Medusa is trying to protect a warrior who just stabbed her with a sword from other monsters, becasue she remember that warrior is her sister before she is cursed and turned into Medusa, maybe I am crazy haha but please this my imagination
I will start wit hdraft and a bit clean up and then color, okay that is the draft, critiques please again!!!!!!
Last edited by openanewworld; September 28th, 2006 at 06:38 AM.
The anatomy in this one is just fantastic. If you want to learn how to color, I'd suggest doing some smaller experiments to get used to the feeling. It looks like you already have the skill - you just have to apply yourself to learning to color. It won't take long for it to click, I have a feeling.
nanyacura, I have done some tests but agree with you I should start from the some things first, but I want to know which way is suitable to me, coloring form black grey and white or directly use traditional fine art style, I saw a lot of dudes here are using fine art style, but to me I like lines very much so I barely can color over my line works, so I want to make a big test withthat picture, I try to do my best on this one with one style and with other style I make another one
a great way of coloring is to use a layer on multiply (in photoshop). This way the lines won't be affected. Then on another normal layer you can use the colorpicker and paint over any lines you don't want to keep.
If you want go get more into colouring and (like me) are a bit scared of big decisions I can give only one advice: be brave and quickly (not too neatly) slap color on a layer.
Try to fill the entire canvas as soon as possible. Try different coloring schemes. Think about how the light would interact. This way you get to know what works for you and the painting. Since this was all for yourself you did not have to be neat or carefull. No one is gonna see this keep that in mind. Try to be as bold as possible.
After this you might have an idea of what does work for the painting and you don't need to doubt or be scared of decisions anymore.
But looking at your other work and the great quality of it I'm not sure if this advice is appropriate. I wanted to share this advice anyways and would love to see this work coloured! Great job, keep going!
Wow openanewworld. Don't tell me u haven't done that before, because its really good. You really hit some of the colors there! Her elbows might be a bit too red though and it looks like her neck got a bit shorter (it fits the pose so doesn't matter). The hair behind her could use some more values and looks disconnected onder her right arm. Last crit would be that I liked the curve of the ribcage meating the belly in our right side. Maybe get that back into the silhouette and the bright light on the right. The nice thing about these is that you can keep refineing them untill it's a finished piece, or keep them like this and call it a sketch. Also you can do loads of them just for very quick practice. Again, great work!
hi opananewworld, sure you can add me on msn. I see you're watching this threat aswell, but I can't send you an IM. My MSN adress is: firstname.lastname@example.org (I know, complicated). You can add me if you want. I'd like to exchange some knowledge tips or anything. Need to improve here .
Nice how you detailed that last one. The hair could be a bit softer and I'd like to see the white gone. I noticed there's no building blocks/lines in the first version but there are in the second. Were they there on a hidden layer before?
Your lineart is awesome, man... No crite for the motive as such, but what is the flowing shings they sit on? Her hair? Quite a different Medusa, very nice.
Looks like you know about this painting thing too... Can't wait to see it finished.
Maybe it's just the cg here, maybe it can't be avoided, but if you want an oil look, that's not it. That really looks more like watercolor, maybe acrylic watercolor, if it has a real-world equivalent.
awesome though, better than the last eight or so paintings i've done and called finished.
It depends on what you mean by "oil"
do you mean like Salvador Dali, like Bosch, Van Gogh.... ???
wonderful layering, but no textural qualities.
I realize this is a sketch, I'm just saying:
as a study it's great, but as for displaying technique- decide if you want to do a smooth color-layered thing like you have or if you want something more impasto, and also I would deepen the shadow values and use an unusual pallette, but thats me, and I'm not you, so forget everything I just said.
Okay, I really hate you. DAMN, that drawing is amazing!
I'm also learning how to color, and I was just told by a friend the concept of laying color tones over your picture, so you can start out with a certain mood. This way, you can paint underneath that color tone (reduced in opacity to whatever degree you deem), along with adjusting the opacity of the pencils.
I included examples in this post. I had reduced the opacity and flow of my brush (the faded brush that goes from fade-to dark-to fade), so I could blend colors well. I made the pencil layer as "Multiply", reduced the opacity of it to lighten the value of the lines, and then did the coloring under that layer. Then I placed color layers over all the layers, and then played with the opacity.
The varying layers are:
-- blue overlay
-- blue/yellow overlay
-- blue/yellow/red overlay
-- red overlay
-- red/blue overlay
-- yellow overlay
-- yellow/red overlay
What I've found is that different color overlays can set an overall mood and atmosphere. You can build all your colors and textures through the mixture of these overlays.
This concept should apply to your oil look, as I believe you're doing all this digitally. But, to achieve that oil look, would that be 'cheating'? Maybe.
I'm incredibly ignorant of coloring, and I'm sure I'm making a fool of myself here. But you gotta start somewhere...
Last edited by magnut; September 28th, 2006 at 05:43 AM.
Mr.Shine thank you so much man, I don't have any fine art foundation, I learn art all by myself and now I look at oil painting textbook and finally figure out it is a little different from waht I want, I will show you the right style of waht I want here, thank you for your critiques
magnut I love you man (but I am not gay haah), thank you for doing all those for me, I get your meaning through, pretty clear and some good points you show in them, thank you again.
guys I just show that awsome painting from a master, so you guys will understand what kind of style I am appraoching, but I am very clear I am so far away from that