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    SWAT Ortho

    Did this as an art test for a company. Seems there are alot of art test submissions here in the Finally Finished section as of late... which I think is a great sign.

    This is just a character rotation of a SWAT-like police officers uniform for a modeler to work off of.

    First time I've done one of these (for 3D),... so critiques and comments would be much appreciated.

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    I think it's very well done Romance. Nothing to crit from me, i really like his face and hands... lol.

    Great stuff for your first ortho for 3D too.

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    Nice design, nothing to over the top and it seems practical for a police officer.

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    Rob
    looks pretty good.
    Coro and J Manley made some nice points on orthos
    in this thread that you may find helpfull. http://www.conceptart.org/forums/showthread.php?t=77453

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    Pretty nice =)

    I really like the small details

    If you want to go in ultra technical details, the 3 tiny things I noted are the front breast pocket and police writting are missing on the profile view and it s a bit longer on the profile view also. The other thing is the gloves have a hexagonal shape on the front and back view but on the side view, they are square.

    I really like the face
    The render is well executed also

    Great stuff, I hope they like =)

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    Jake - Thanks dude. Hands I had a little trouble with, but managed to get them accurate enough that they resemble what they are supposed to be.

    Matsign - Thanks.

    Craig - Thanks! Saw those posts. Very good points and definitely something to consider for the next one I do, or maybe if I decide to overhaul this fella. Though it probably wouldn't hurt much to make the arms on 45 degrees like Coro mentioned in his post.

    Simon - Thanks for spotting those! Always seem to miss the little things when I'm trying to get stuff out. Probably should have posted it when it was a WIP before I finished it and sent it out. Thanks again.

    A few things I might tweak:

    • Increase the sizes of the clips on the belt or remove/replace them all together.
    • Make the pockets on the his left side of the belt, in the front view, fewer and larger, or turn them into a big open pocket/pouch.
    • Strap a knife to his left leg.
    • Add police insignia patch on arms.
    • Fix his leaning legs in the profile view.
    • Make his feet a bit bigger in the profile.


    Not sure if I'll make all these changes... wouldn't mind knowing what you thing.

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    Just one crit from me, in the profile shot, the arm connection point is way too low. Just look, the shoulder pad should overlap the top of the connection point, when you add to that the fact that you have drawn the outer edge of shoulder pads even lower in the profile shot than the face & rear shots, you end up with a connection point somewhere in mid thorax.

    Apart from that minor quibble, I think the design is good. It seems practical & credible.

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    a damn well done job, romance.
    can`t seem to find any major problems(perhaps just the arm/shoulder locating, front and profile compared...),
    and the execution and design are excellent.
    I Love your stuff, man.

    keep it up.

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    Love the fact that he's a normal guy and not some superhuman he-man with biceps the size of the iceberg that knicked Titanic...

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    very cool design, Romance
    everything lines up, and i know that was painstaking. the only problem i see with the design is the interaction between the back of the helmet and the collar for the armor. he wouldn't be able to lean his head back more than a few inches.

    best of luck with the test, my friend.

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    Cool design and i like ur rendering style. The face looks very natural...

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    the arms need to be neutral in angle..typically at 45 degrees...sometimes at 90 degrees out...right now this model would not animate well with the current pose of it's arms, once it gets built.


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    Looks nice! Maybe a bit more contrast in the values of the uniform?

    Keep it up, good luck!

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    If you have any more orthographics I'd be interested in seeing them, I'm currently looking for ortho's of any genre to make for a project I have this semester. All credit would be given to you for your design/concept!

    I posted more info over here.

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    On the list of things you said you might tweak/change you mentioned increasing the size of the clips on his belt or taking them away. IMO you should leave them, they add to the character. But you def need to up the size of them, they are way too small.

    Also, I'd like to second what Jason Manley said about the position of the arms. You gotta keep those modelers and animators happy, it will keep you happy too.

    Great job otherwise.

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    Very believable design, all the way down to a functional looking tac holster. Well done
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    on a side note, his eyebrow is not drawn in perspective....it would be much shorter in length when his head is turned to the side.

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    Well done, Rob!

    When you add those little details that Jason suggsted you'll be unstoppable

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    Very good stuff, Romance. This is a really jazzy SWAT design-much better than what the current men in uniform are rocking if I do say so.

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    Nice and Clean...

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    I was hoping to have the first installment of revisions put on this thing before I posted here again, but alas, I have been too busy to do so, but will hopefully get a chance to do it this week if the time is available.

    Staz - I'll amend the arm connection point/shoulderpad issue when I revise the ortho. Thank you for your valuable advice and kind comments.

    Chuck,Mate. - Thanks dude. Yep, screwed up on the shoulder. Doh! Love your stuff too... thanks for helping keep the 3CHW alive.

    KenJ - Thanks.

    Donkeyslayer - How could I forget you, ol' roomie? Thanks. Design note taken - will be addressed in my revisions. Hope to see you in San Fran.

    JakkaS - Thanks Mr.COW! I like your renderings too

    Jason M - Thanks. I'll address these with the revisions. I'll probably put the arms at 45 degrees to limit the tweaking I have to do to the shoulder pads, which as of now, seem like they may be a design flaw. Eyebrows will get tweaked too. My Bad.

    Justin Oaksford - The lack of contrast in the uniform, for the most part, is purposely done; though, I admit, a few spots need tweaking (i.e. the gloves).
    Thanks for your input.

    Fallen77 - Thanks for the interest. As of right now I can't say yes (or no) to your request as I'm not sure if this could possibly be used by the company I submitted it too, (if I get the job of course). So as of right now, it's undetermined.

    Volles Metall - Thanks for the crits and kind words. I'll keep the clips in and make the adjustments to their size, though, I may change their location or arrangement.

    Undertow - Thanks!

    Interceptor - Thanks buddy. Its friends like you that keep me inspired and painting.

    J_Absinthe - Thanks dude. Someone say FASHION POLICE?!

    Thestjester - Thanks!

    Thanks again guys and gals for the help and support.

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    Hey man, that looks really great...I'm sorry I didnt see this thread earlier, because it looks really great! I've been working on Ortho drawing for my design class right now, and I know how frustrating, and downright boring they can be, but this one looks top notch. I think with the final revision, it's definately something that will look good in portfolio.
    Missing you here back in Edmonton, but it definately looks like you're still heading full steam ahead to success!
    Keep it up man, your determination will get you far!

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    dude romance, you are really stepping it up mate... when i saw your tdome piece... I hardly believed it was yours, it's badass! Not that you weren't badass before, but your personality lends me to underestimate, you are always super humble, but for serious man, you are awesome... keep improving!

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