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September 11th, 2006 #1
"Godspeed, Llywelyn" - update 9-15-06: colour schemes attack at dawn
I've started my latest - yay, seems my drawing vein is back!
I'd like some input on this one. It's still very rough, and I'd love to hear what you think in regard to placement, anatomy, and readability. Or anything else that you notice.
Last edited by GoldSeven; September 15th, 2006 at 05:37 PM.
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Nice Sketch. I'm really digging your characters... absolutely loved the piece you posted in "finally finished"! That said, here'r a few little things I noticed...
Very good anatomy and feeling of solid 3D on the horse's head... his ear placement might be a little off. Also his front leg might be a little thin.
The person on the ground looks to me a little too thin and "scrunched" in the shoulders.
September 11th, 2006 #3
September 11th, 2006 #4
hallo, a little germaning:
gefällt mir recht gut, schöne stimmung. dachte zuerst, der reiter hätte ein seltsames bein, bis ich gemerkt habe, dass es der arm des anderen ist. lässt sich vielleicht mit farbe beheben, oder du schiebst das becken des reiters etwas vor. der stehende ist wirklich etwas zu schmal, nicht nur die schultern, auch der brustkorb hat da keinen platz mehr. zeichnest du zu beginn eigentlich ein grobes skelett vor, ich mach das mittlerweile, auch wenn ich früher immer dachte, dass ichs nicht brauche. ich würde beim zeichnen eines oberkörpers vor allem auf die wirbelsäule und die schlüsselbeinknochen achten, somit verliert sich die steifheit (die wirklich nur im oberkörperbereich da ist).
dem bild an sich könntest du noch (keine ahnung, wie der storybezug ist) mehr dynamik verschaffen, wenn du das pferd in eine stärkere schrägstellung (kopf mehr nach links) und den "stehenden" in die andere richtunglehnst (vielleicht sein arm mehr gestreckt). aber das ist nur der gedanke eines action-freaks, vermutlich willst du ja diese ausgeglichene ruhe.
bin gespannt, wies weitergeht!
sorry for this, but my english......
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September 12th, 2006 #5
Thanks for the input, Arne! I'm going to redo Aidan (the guy in front) completely. Normally I do a skeleton first... but sometimes I get carried away fleshing figures out when I shouldn't. Got me. Thanks for the tip about backbone and collarbones!
I'm going to see if I find a way to keep the horse's head turned to our right, maybe lean Aidan to the left - the horse should stay more or less like that; he's shying, not bolting.
September 12th, 2006 #6
Hey man, I really dug you piece in the FF. I can feel this one's gonna be great too. I think I problem for me is with the front character's back being completely turned on us. If you could find a way to show him in mid turn or something I think it would be solid. Did you think of a worms eye view?
September 12th, 2006 #7
Augh - no, I'm not going to try any too aspiring perspectives here. That one-point perspective in my last one was about the extent of what I can handle right now
Normally, I really go out of my way showing all faces in my pics, and in this one, I didn't want to sacrifice credibility just to show all the faces. I guess the best thing I could do would be to convey a sense of urgency in Aidan's (the guy on the ground) pose alone, so we don't need his face.
I've done a few more sketches for his pose, and right now, I think C shows the urgency the most. A is mostly the last version you saw, only with his shoulders broadened.
September 12th, 2006 #8
C is definetely the best. Although it creates a distracting negative space in the lower right. Buuut, that comment is completely irrelevant considering it's not colored or finished and therefore does no one any good..... I apoligize.
The overlap of his right arm over-top the riders left foot is wierd.
Great sketch, I also like how you've opened up the compisition to show the entire head of the rider.
September 12th, 2006 #9
Of this batch I lean toward C... A and B still block the viewer out with Aidan's back... and the hidden arm positions in D seem a bit complex. One minor tweak I'd suggest is to maybe lean Aidan a little more to the left so that his head blocks more of the horse's neck (as you've done in version D). This would give him a stronger left-arm hold on the horse's head as well as giving you the opportunity to open his pose up towards profile just a hair more.
September 12th, 2006 #10
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September 12th, 2006 #11
Hmmmm...! Easy, and effective.
I've tried around with more space between the horse's and Aidan's legs (as in Elwell's version) and my pose C... which I'm growing rather attached to. Problem: A lot of the urgency is lost with Aidan not holding the reins. And if he raises his hand, he hangs there like a monkey.
Edit: Scratch this version. Looks stupid, and nothing is gained by it that wasn't already there in C. I think I'll either go for C or Elwell's idea.
Last edited by GoldSeven; September 12th, 2006 at 11:16 AM.
September 12th, 2006 #12
Elwell beat me too it. The greater horizontal distance between Aiden and the horse helps create more space in the composition, more like a triangle and not so much aligned with Llywelyn's noggin.
Each pose is also saying something different.
A is neutral, "Make sure you find a place to launder your underwear when you get there."
B is similar, but a little more dynamic, "We're going to miss you terribly!"
C is totally different, "You're not taking my horse! You ride your pig!"
D is also different, "Watch the road! There are R.O.U.S.'s and vermicious knids!"
You obviously know what he's saying... act it out and really sell it (make us know).
Looking really nice, though.
September 12th, 2006 #13
"Watch the road! There are R.O.U.S.'s and vermicious knids!"
That would be it.
Although I still think C would fit that too, with an undertone of, "And if you don't leave this instant, I'll throw you home on a catapult!"
Last edited by GoldSeven; September 12th, 2006 at 11:31 AM.