hi, i was wondering if lately there has been any cheap alternatives to the cintiqs - i have trawlled through other threads and cant find anything of interest, save one about a chinese screen.
maybe im going to look at second hand 15x's, but i wondered if there was any newer tech.
i dont want a tablet pc, i have a toshiba, broken screen - £400 replacement, hence me wondering if the money is better spent elsewhere - i have a dual-core pc which can handle anything better than a tabletpc ever could
yeah, but im happy with a 12" screen, and the tablet pc's use wacom screens+pens - so i was wondering if there is a way to get one of those without having to pay for the cintiq? (they go up to and above £2000, money i dont have)
Wacom does sell a pressure sensitive pen which is actually fairly affordable. These can be used with any touchscreen to get approximately the same effect as having a cintiq.
That being said, most low end touchscreens like most low end LCD's will have poor refresh rates, pixel response times, color reproduction, etc.
You do get what you pay for in terms of a very good monitor, with the added touchscreen and pressure sensitivity. Not to mention, if you get a generic touchscreen, you won't get that nice, paperlike surface you get with a cintiq. You can experiment though and find some kind of suitable overlay.
You can also get one of the above mentioned pressure sensitive pens, and say, a high-end tablet pc, which altogether will cost you roughly as much as a new cintiq. The trade off there however is that tablet PC's are generally mid-range systems even when they're new. You'd want something fairly powerful to handle the speed with which you will be laying lines down. There's kind of a "rubber pen" problem that can occur with even a cintiq, where the line kind of follows the cursor a half a second later.
Anyway, my personal recommendation if you're able to (assuming you're a student with limited means) would be to go the tablet PC route. That way, you have virtually the entirety of your digital studio with you at all times.
ive got a broken toshiba tablet pc already - £400 for a new screen (the old models had a screen problem where they would come 'unstuck' from the sensor, and mine broke) - so i am used to lag in all places (pen lag, disk lag, lensflare lag )
but, as you said, tablet pc's are mid range - mine is a 1.3ghz (but its very slow - must be some knd of mobile version)
my desktop is a core2 duo - very fast,dual core - i was just seeing, if i could get a new toshiba-wacom screen for £400 - maybe somewhere i could get a usb screen for £400 and use it with my core2 duo desktop
its a shame that wacom dont make a 10-12" budget cintiq, really - they churn out the screens in that size already for the oem's
does anyone want to give me a good deal on an old 15x?
I think it's because anything american made, they either overestimate shipping (by 1200 bucks?), or they don't really fully calculate the conversion, they guess. Cartoonfox told me that for a new game you guys can pay upwards of 60 or 70 bucks, usually near 100 or so... like if a new game here is 50 bucks, there it will be like 40 pounds, which is totally wrong. - Couldn't you just buy a 21x from the American site and let the conversion take care of itself? Jeez...
just saying a massive massive THANKYOU to epiphany
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i got this in the post the other day - 90,000 yen (£400) and it is absolutely gorgeous, its got a glass screen (my laptop has a plastic one) and feels really smooth and nice - 1024,768, but a 15" screen. it is loads and loads better than my toshiba tabletpc. i can really draw with this. the viewable angle is really good, and its so bright i have to turn it down
im so happy with the action of it im even starting a sketchbook thread because my digital skethching has now improved loads, thanks to it being much more acurate than my tabletpc
i recommend these to anybody at all.
if you know someone in japan you can get them everywhere for the same price, wacom dti-520 U - amazon.co.jp for example.
cintiq vs. generic touch screen is like intuos vs. generic tablet. If you're willing to pay enough for a knock-off version of your product, you might as well just pay extra for the product that will last longer and work much better. If $3000 US is too much (wacom raised the price from $2500 a few months ago guys, sorry), you can always chance it with ebay: