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    Hiya Max,
    I’m unfamiliar with the Dodson book, but drawing from life like that is the best way to go. Just keep doing it every day and you’ll improve by leaps and bounds.

    Good luck!
    I think you are awesome, and I wish you the best in your endeavors, but I am tired of repeating myself, I am very busy with my new baby, and I am no longer a regular participant here, so please do not contact me to ask for advice on your career or education. All of the advice that I have to offer can already be found in the following links. Thank you.

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    Now now Seedling, don't make promises we can't keep! Keep drawing from life and there's a CHANCE you'll improve, albeit probably really really slowly.

    Those sneakers show you have the patience to draw. So go ahead and give it a shot, maybe you'll turn out to be talented at it!
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    Thanks for the comments. Patience is definitely one of my few advantages right now.

    I picked up a few different softer pencils and started messing around with them. Drawing with a 5B is kind of like painting with a pencil. I dig it.
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    I've been wanting to get into alot of things with drawing, but I tend to feel overwelmed. Especially by my desire to participate in the DSG. So, I started going as simple as possible and I'm just focusing on line quality and seeing.
    It's funny how something so simple can allow for so much.
    (There's many pages of this, but just a few here ...)
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    I feel a little more comfortable with the pencil and drawing with my eyes on the object and less on the paper.
    Starting to come together a bit ...
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    I appreciate all comments and suggestions for more exercises/stuff to draw.
    Thanks,
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    Looking good Max.

    As for suggestions for more exercises/stuff... I saw you got yourself an anatomy book. Very good idea, start drawing from it. Just don't try to learn it all from start to finish, muscle by muscle, it'll slow you down. Instead, try getting a rough idea of the whole picture and work from there. Practice the parts that you feel (or other people tell you) are your weakest. Analyse your drawings and ask yourself what's wrong and what you could have done better, find the mistakes, then never make those mistakes again. Keep on drawing from life, it always pays off. Draw draw draw, if you're doing it right, the more you draw the better you'll get.

    And most importantly: Don't listen to me, I'm just a beginner myself.
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    Thanks for the comments Olle, very helpful.
    It was recommended by a friend that I check out the Art Student's League of New York, which I did, and I'm pretty excited that I'll be studying with Michael Burban 5 afternoons a week starting September 11.

    I did a quick sketch with a new tool (Red China Marker) to celebrate ::
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    I've continued to do the simple shape line work and it's helping temendously.
    Also making me realize I gotta study up on some perspective.
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    As per the Dodson book, I'm did a partial copy of a Morandi etching in ink.
    Hatching is definitely time-consuming. I'm going to be doing an emulation of the style with my own still life tomorrow.
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    I finally got into working from the Peck book. Did a rough of the skeleton front-view today. Anyone know how to get good scans of pencils without leveling like crazy in Photoshop?
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    I'm going to finish this skeleton tomorrow, work out the details and such.
    Thank God for the simple line practice or this would've never happened.

    Thanks for looking and any words you might have.
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    Some good work. You seem well rounded in your study so just continue as you are.
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    great stuff in here man. very fine job on the hands page- i suck at hands. my fav though is that enchanted tree. beautiful lines in that one. i see hints of that in some of your drawings, but i'd really like to see some more of that. keep up the great work Max
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    Thank you both for the added encouragement. I appreciate it very much.

    I spent alot of time doing the line study thing and I picked up a pocket sketchpad so I can do gestures and quick studies everywhere. It's big fun.

    Here's some more hands (trying to do about 2 of these a day).
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    The emulation of the Morandi etching I did the partial copy of. Doing a glass with all hatching in ink was very difficult. Any suggestions?
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    I started studying with Burban at the Art Student's League yesterday. I learned a tremendous amount already, just drawing. And Burban's definitely a helpful and interesting teacher. Quite a character.
    From yesterday ::
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    I felt good about my first day in a life drawing class. No pressure, right?

    These were some from today. I had a harder time drawing this woman, she put on an intense smile for each pose and it was a bit distracting. Something I have to get used to I suppose....

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    rendering ?!?
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    Thanks for looking. All C&C very much welcome and appreciated.
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    Awesome that you started taking lessons, doing real life drawings and stuff, wish I could do that.

    The figure studies are looking good. The body parts are filled with anatomy problems but that's to be expected, I'm sure you'll improve fast if you use an anatomy book along with the life drawings. What really impressed me though is your heads. Seriously, I've studied the head much more then all the other body parts together and still it's the part I'm having the most trouble with. Getting them read kinda fast and with just a few lines, sheesh it's killing me. You're actually getting some of that on your first tries, my first heads sucked so bad it's not even funny.

    Keep it up, the more you post the easier it is for others to crit.
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    Thanks Olle. Art Student's League is great, I'm glad I have the opportunity.
    I'm about to dig in deep with the Peck anatomy book. I think that you're right; it will help tons.
    Funny that you say that about the heads, I thought that yours have some really great expression. That's the part I identify with easier, I'm still learning to read the body's expression.

    2 more days at school ::
    - At the recommendation of Burban, I've been framing the quick studies in line in order to work on composition as well ...
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    and a bit of improvement on the single-figure study since the previous day
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    More framed quick ones from today...
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    and more single-figure studies from today
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    i think I almost nailed the face on this one :
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    I'm working on some master studies at home too, I'll post them soon for your crits and comments and whatnot.
    thanks again.

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    any ideas why the last one is big and the rest are thumbnails?
    I used the attachment manager the same for all ...
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    dude, kudos for your post in my book- laughed my ass off haha.

    anyway, those life drawings are looking solid Max. especially for it just being your first time. how much time are you getting for these? my only tips for when it comes to life drawing is to use a ridiculous amount of plumblines. compare everything you can. the proportions are looking a tad off. so that should help a little. another thing that can help that is something i read in anthony ryder's book (i think he might even teach there- dude's an effin' stud). wrap the figure in an envelope. basically they're lines that wrap the figure. for example, you'd compare the angle from the top of the head to the shoulder. then you'd draw that same line on your paper. then you'd compare the shoulder to whatever else is furthest out. say it's his hand. compare the two, draw the line, and keep doing this until the figure is completely wrapped. should just be 6 or 7 lines maybe. it helps a lot with proportions. hope that's helpful at all. drawing naked people is one of my past times. love it. once you get used to it. i'm sure you're gonna be breakin' out some sexy stuff. cheers!
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