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August 6th, 2006 #1
To be honest I'm not entirely satisfied with this, but I felt like I had to move on already, as I'd spent too much time on it. Hope you all can give some crits to help me out.
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was'nt this on another thread? I think I made some suggestions there.
Edit: I found the other thread. Here is my post there, maybe not alot of advice, but take it for what it's worth
Honest, I don't try to be an asshole, it just happens!
August 6th, 2006 #3
cool stuff, and nice improvements. it still doesnt look finished though, heres some tips
· heightened contrast on the faces. right now the two tones you've used are quite close and it could just do with one more darker tone to go behind the cheekbone etc... making the background dark and making the light source an on screen lantern or something would have worked a lot better...
· maybe you were trying to convey solemnity but the whole thing is very monotone.. unsaturated.. boring even. spice up the colours!
· the brick totems or peices of wall or whatever on either side of the couple, are useless and draw the attentiona away for no reason. if you're going to make a background like that, incorporate more with the characters.. put broken buildings behind them, and maybe some rubble at thier feet
· coming back to lack of contrast.. it doesnt show in many areas better than it does on the dress, the whole thing is like one colour, with a highlight.. dresses are usually crumpled and give some of the most interesting shading practises possible. study work of some of the old masters... traditional oil on canvas is a hotspot for good dress renders..
· putting a few blades of grass on what looks like concrete just looks stupid. of it's ground, then why is it the same colour as the dark areas on the brick wall?
· make the face that he's a demon a little more evident. he doesnt look particularly demonic, maybe add some more of that green weird stuff ripping out of his clothes along his arm, some patches on his face etc... and some shredded bits on the clothes would make him look a lot rougher and demon ish
· adding some other elements like wind would make it a lot more interesting. this could be emphasized with movement in the cape, the girl's hair flowing.. the dress moving.. leaves in the air.. the grass blades moving.. you name it.
· put thier heads closer if you want to show them as really loving eachother. the man's head is tilted as if it's leaning on something but it isn't. bring her closer to him, into him, as if they were throwing themselves into eachother and gripping eachother with passion! yes.. er.. so just bring her in a bit and make his head lean on hers.
August 6th, 2006 #4
evildragonfire: yeah I did actually try to adress some of hte issues you mentioned, but ulitmately failed. hehe.
tie: Thanks for the great crits. I've a long way to go but at least now I have a few things to look out for.
August 6th, 2006 #5
Wow! Another huge step forward. Really loving the idea behind this picture, that's the strongest thing about it. Love the atmosphere, love the character designs.
Here are some compositional ideas that might help. Hope ya don't mind the sketch over..
-BG: Try to enclose them in an archway. This gives the heightens the effect of the embrace somehow. It's a copout trick for an embrace picture, but an effective one that's used quite a bit. I also added the pillars in the background (which would be painted in a "haze") to add depth.
-It's corny but I hinted at some wind in the picture that suggests a kind of going away, which is what I think is happening in the picture? Only a subtle wind though, and it has more of an effect on their hair than their clothing. Keep the weight of the material in mind when doing windblown.
-Draw the underfigure before you paint in the highlights and shadows on the fabric. The girl's dress and the cape are flat and don't seem to pushing against anything. I sketched in an idea for a stance but take any direction you want..
-I also suggested that you add a pathway (at the bottom of the pic) leading up to the focal point-the characters. The "triangle" between their calves leads up to the embrace; the archway encloses the eyes around the focal point. Just some more compositional ideas...
-Their heads are tilted downwards, so I changes the features a bit to go along with that. Downcast eyes, nose, mouth, etc.
-I traced over the limbs with basic tapered cylinders to correct the perspective on those.
-I softened the hand gestures on the demon guy; he is not quite pressing them against the girl, using the balls of his palms instead. It's a nice delicate move to counterbalance the monstrousness of the demon arm.
Oh and if you do take the suggestions, the figures might need to be nudged a tad to the right. Great painting, shows a lot of promise.