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    Want critique?! draw more nude chicks!

    You're doing beautiful photo studies, they are very helpful but some phenomenons are hard to notice and understand on them. In Indian Head you could add variety of local colours and colours of light as a result of bounced light. I would suggest you to look for veeeeery subtle colour shift when you will be doing next study. Master painters observed it very well and emphasized is very often. I am recently fascinated with Bouguereau regarding skin subtleness and all kind of shifts (hue, value, detail amount...).

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    Awesome work, your studies are looking really good.
    The only thing i see is that in your own painting there seems to be a lot less contrast, and they seem very mid-toney so to speak. Try and push some darks and light and strong colours to push the contrast.

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    Really awesome stuff I'm seeing here. I specially loved the landscape studies!
    I'll keep an eye on this sb from now on... Can't wait to see more

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    My god! definitively subscribed!! =) and surely between my top favorite threads.
    I have no words to describe how amazed I am. The one that I liked the most is the indian head now that's the work of a genius.

    there's a HUGE change from the beginning well done

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    artozi More nude chicks? Yay! Thanks for the advice. I did a Bouguereua study a while back and it was hell to try to figure out the skin tones...
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    So I fell off tyhe wagon a bit the week before last. Got frustrated with landscape studies so I just studies whatever.

    1 hour studies of random stuff;

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    random poop sketches

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    In the first entry of what seems to be EMO-Week for me, quick painting of a wood elf (lots of face issues)

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    And my entry for CHOW this week; (EDIT: changed his tats based on critiques)

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    Quote Originally Posted by C0mBineD View Post
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    That ChOW piece is way bad-ass.

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    AWWWESOOOMME!!!! This is GREAT stuff!!! Thanks for sharing, friend!!

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    Jason, that CHOW piece is so far above anything else you've done until now, it just blows me away. Like Elwell said, real breakthrough for you. Keep it up!

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    I am seriously digging the CHOW piece. The lighting is really striking.

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    Last piece is awesome!!. Great work, keep it up!!

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    the last chow is a good step in the right direction for you.

    overall the handling of light is better, but you're still trying to 'draw' the details disregarding light and form. and how u did the muscles of the stomach/chest just looks real weird. [wrong]

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    hot damn jason you've improved a great deal since i last posted here. you've developed some really good atmosphere in you're digital illustrations and as said above, your chow is looking bad-ass. keep it up!

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    Your studies lately have a very painterly look to them, which is awesome.

    That ChoW though!!

    That's amazing!! Even for a B&W illy

    Keep up the goodies sir!

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    Jason that last piece is incredible. Keep doing things like that!

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    The Chow piece is unbelievable!
    Also, I'm loving the waterfalls study. So subscribing to this thread, yum. Lots of inspiring work!

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    Finally caught up with you again and I can see a big improvement. Good work.


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    This week and a bit was a bad one for studies and illos. Two steps forward one step back... Promise I'll have better stuff next time.

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    Beutiful colors in that last post! Great overall since of form. I'd really like to see you put that energy into some pencil sketches. Also, in the train/polar bear painting maybe play around with edge sharpness and focus like you've done in the winter forest painting. Hope that's helpful? Thanks for this great sketchbook definatly keeping an eye on this one

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    Woah nice updates. Loving the one with the train and the bear behind it

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    I want to be just like Jason when I grow up.

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    Cool Cammy! Not sure about the shoulder muscles, I think the junctions are too sharp, even for a tough girl like her. The perspective in the feet in our left looks a bit weird, maybe if it pointed forward it'd be better. Last but not least, the gun arm is in a strange position, considering that she's holding such a heavy gun. It would appear more natural if the arm was tilted inwards, with the gun just over her pelvis.
    Well sorry for ripping off your cammy, it's a cool work anyways!
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    Spend more time on your studies. I don't think there is much to learn from doing many quick stuff from magazines. Instead, do 2 refined copies (in pencil) from sargent or repin or any painter who were able to concieve the head in distinct masses of color and tone. Employ the knowledge gained from these in your next set of skull studies (drawings conciously executed with mass and line, with a complete overview over all value relationships*). Combine all this with "conceptual construction" (Loomis, kChen, Bammes, Bridgman, Vanderpoel etc.).

    During and after all this, you'll probably notice that the speed will pick up. You can't learn to be quick by painting quickly. Any musical perfomer would agree with me on that


    *Big emphasis on relationships here. What is a pure black in the reference can be a gray in your drawing, as long as all the other half tones and lights correspond to that value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndreasM View Post
    Spend more time on your studies. I don't think there is much to learn from doing many quick stuff from magazines. Instead, do 2 refined copies (in pencil) from sargent or repin or any painter who were able to concieve the head in distinct masses of color and tone. Employ the knowledge gained from these in your next set of skull studies (drawings conciously executed with mass and line, with a complete overview over all value relationships*). Combine all this with "conceptual construction" (Loomis, kChen, Bammes, Bridgman, Vanderpoel etc.).

    During and after all this, you'll probably notice that the speed will pick up. You can't learn to be quick by painting quickly. Any musical perfomer would agree with me on that


    *Big emphasis on relationships here. What is a pure black in the reference can be a gray in your drawing, as long as all the other half tones and lights correspond to that value.
    Thanks for the suggestion man

    The reason I went for quick studies (about an hour or so) was that I just didn't seem to have the time for anything more than that. I had a few suggestions for doing one hour studies and they seemed to be coming out alright at first, but I found myself looking at the clock more than my subject.

    One thing that did actually help me though was the quick faces (the girls), mainly because there were a lot of basics about face that I missed. I pretty much discovered the form of the eye on those studies.

    So I think I'll end up making a compromise, quick "sketches" of faces or poses and gestures, and longer studies like you suggested. I'll probably start with that sargent painting of the sitting lady (can't remember the name off the top of my head, shame on me) in pencil... which is frightenting, and after that I have a bouguereau image that I've wanted to study inPS for a while now.

    All I have to do is find the time (and the balls) to do it Thanks again.

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    I think the issue with your work is just value placement to describe form correctly. It is never a bad idea to find reference to get what you are looking for right. I don't agree with just doing specific things to get better at drawing and painting. Remember tools are tools. The end result is what you are trying to get to. Finding ways to refine what look you want is what you want to go after. Be careful with composition. In the snowy forest piece you have a couple of trees that kind take up space and split the composition up. Not a good idea. It doesn't work. I can understand what you are trying to go for as far as scale, but you want to use trees as frame. Think of a picture frame. The picture is not going outside of the frame right? Think in terms of that. Give it room to breath as well. You don't want clutter. It's like a junky closet. Atmosphere is another thing you want to address in your environments. Even values is almost consistent througout paintings. Less value as you go towards horizon. Even if you have to cheat it, will help sell the illusion of depth. I hope I gave you a bit more insight. Keep painting. You're improving a lot.

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    Well hi! Long time no drop-by, though I've seen some of your work on Facebook.
    I'm loving all the landscapes, there was one of hills on the last page that kinda reminded me of the Alpine region in summer. Also the boat one is great. The one with the men in the snow in the forest too.. yeh, definitely keep the landscape practicing up

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    Thanks everyone I've got to post this before it gets too much;


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    Hey Jason, you're treading along the right path for sure. Did you ever browse the Morrowind forums and post in the art threads? I think I remember you from there years back. Now I look at your work and feel I need to catch up, I've been sleeping for far too long!

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