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    Hey, Really nice improvement from the beginning of this sketchbook. You have a lot of good studies posted, and I'm liking your take on that DBZ like character. Good stuff.

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    jedininjaman thanks man. Yeah detail and texture in my finished work is really something I'm going to try. They're the main things aside from a lack of understanding of leg anatomy that seems to be really holding me back.
    dmitri I've received this advice before and I agree I should, it's just that I'm back in my small hometown and there's nowhere (no cafe's, food courts, waiting areas etc) that I could covertly sketch some peeps. Myabe I'll get one of my friends/family members to sit for me, but if my lack of patience with a still photo is any indication, I'll probably reserve that for the future.
    Goyim thanks
    Glass eye Thank you as well
    Untouched24 Yeah, There's a marked difference between then and now, only problem is 'then' was 2 and a half years ago. I'm a bit more miffed at the lack of progress from say, 6 months ago to now. Thanks

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    Arms. Legs are next, then maybe some full body studies and texture studies.

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    The way I see it, it's not your art at this point, it's your experience level at working simultaneously with your hand, your eye and your mind. You are not drawing a large enough number of drawings to improve the way you want in the short time you would prefer. When you post a few days worth of drawings, it's about an afternoon's worth. You can look at an image and generally copy it, but you keep talking about how you're frustrated with your progress.
    If you want to really crank it up, get a few packages of printer paper, just standard 8 1/2 x 11, and fill them up, one package every two or three days, with gesture drawings, just mannequins at first, very simplified. If you can have freinds pose, do it, if not, you can take them from photos, or whatever.

    First, lightly find the boundaries on the page, don't just begin drawing at any size, set a size inside the paper edges and draw within it.

    Create the line of action and the weight or balance of the figure. Then, draw from the skeleton out. Find the position of the joints to find the proportions of the limbs.

    Give yourself 2 minutes per skeleton gesture. Capture the proportion and the pose, the force and the position of the limbs, rib cage, box of the hips, truncated oval or sphere with a jaw indication and a cross to show the angle of view. Measure the head lengths to get the proportion correct.


    Line of action
    Balance
    line of the shoulders
    line of the hips
    rib cage
    hip box
    ball of the thigh, to the knee, to the ankle, indicate the foot
    repeat on the other side of the hips
    ball of the shoulder, to the elbow, to the wrist, indicate the hand.
    neck and skull, face indication

    You can find many examples online, some are very detailed for the purpose, but just remember, you want to work out a process like this that you can repeat, so that you can spend your time worrying about proportion, and light and shadow.

    There are many illustrators, animators, comic artists and concept artists that used this when they were starting out, but they filled notebooks or sketchbooks. So, for me, sketchbooks are too pricey for the total number of drawings an artist should do to improve quickly, instead, use cheap paper for doing rapid studies. It's not an artwork, it's a workout.

    Again, this is not for the sake of the studies, although after a while they will start to be very successful on their own, and I do not draw any finished works this way, although they usually begin as quick sketches, gestures or roughs.

    In time, you can add muscles and surface details, clothing, other details. You'd be surprised how fast you can sketch an entire piece that once would have taken you a day to draw. You can get a very good, very fast likeness acheived, although, the object is not to learn to draw quickly, but to learn more quickly how to draw.

    if you want to see examples, you can always make a request in my sketchbook area.
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=146646
    I'd be more than happy to post some good examples, I warm up with them all the time, or return to them for problem solving a pose or composition.

    Anyway, try this exercise a little, then go back to your longer pieces, and see if you haven't improved any.

    I don't really tell serious artists good luck, I tell them to work hard.

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    Hay Jason, beware ego boost on its way.
    Dude my only hope is to improve as much as you have over the last year,
    Very inspirational stuff, really dig the skeleton/muscle studies.

    Just keep on posting,
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    And he said, "Welp, I suppose you better shut up and draw."


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    Cool to see someone doing some triceps studies and showing a feathered muscle properly. Cheers!

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    Brion Frantz now that's the kind of post I love Thank you much. The comment about stretching an afternoon's work to several days really hit, and so I did my afternoon's worth this afternoon (I have graphic design work during the morning and at night to finish up now)

    As for gestures, I'll sure to use it as a warm-up exercise or when I'm not sure exactly what to study. Posemaniacs and scrap paper will come in hand

    JailHouseRock2 haha, aren't you the 16-year old? Well ego-booster right back at you: I wish I had the will to iprove and the knowledge to make it possible when I was 16. You have one hell of a leg up man

    n1va Thank you fellow muscle enthusiast
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    Legs. Tomorrow I'll be prepping and starting a longer study, I think I have the pic I need (the woman is standing straight on but the quality and lighting is good) focus will be of course on accuracy but also on texture.

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    WoW, incredible progression since the beginning, this is the result of a shit load of work as i saw in your sketchbook! Keep on working and posting this great progression !

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    This was originally a direct-copy figure study rendered without value scale (IE rendered with direct observed colours, rather than a value drawing underneath a colour overlay) but as usual I had to mess around with it. The title of the reference, "Venus on the half shell" inspired me to create a more godly image.

    My focus for the study was texture and soft vs hard forms.

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    Here's the study itself, unaltered (except for a bit of the halo)

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    dude, that last study is stunning. Great work and progress from what I see. Keep it up =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Rainville View Post

    My focus for the study was texture and soft vs hard forms.



    Yeah and the fact that its fuckin awesome!


    nice one,
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    yesterday, God came to me in a dream and told me that if I don't become a comic book artist, he has decreed that I shall instead be a burlesque dancer.
    And I said, "But God, nice panties are so expensive!"
    And he said, "Welp, I suppose you better shut up and draw."


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    Hi Jason, I'm new here and I loved looking through your sketchbook, I am trying to walk a similar path and learning everyday, seeing your work has given me even more energy to practice, thanks!

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    Hey that last study is great! I really love how you've pushed the skintones and such, and also the anatomy studies are great

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    inspiring sketchbook

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    are you still using eyedropper tool for those color studies? I think u will learn more from direct observation/ searching for the colors...and generally you will get a better understanding of hoe hues are distributed. You don't need exact colors, but approximations/relative hues&values...and exaggerating what you see in real life usually makes things feel more tactile to boot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Texahol View Post
    are you still using eyedropper tool for those color studies? I think u will learn more from direct observation/ searching for the colors...and generally you will get a better understanding of hoe hues are distributed. You don't need exact colors, but approximations/relative hues&values...and exaggerating what you see in real life usually makes things feel more tactile to boot.
    No, I don't use it anymore, and I never used it in the way that you imply: after I was done/frustrated with the colours of a piece I'd use it to select the 'real' colour and I would notice that it was darker/lighter/more saturated etc. I'd never use that colour I picked to paint, rather just to learn how orange looks more green on skin tones and desaturated red looks more like purple...

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    Wow man, a lot of hard work has gone into this, and it shows

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    wow, good study! it looks exactly like the reference! continue this good work mate!

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    The last study is fantastic.

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    Hey bro - whats good.

    After browsing through your stuff I have to say,

    the frustration is always a natural instinct for all of us, i'm sure most people here have emphasized how important that is for natural growth and improvement.

    There is a genuine flow of learning and maturity in your images, and as rough as the graphite and pen stuff is, you have a good grip on the conceptualization of your ideas ; which is an odd, bumpy curve that most guys and gals have serious problems getting through. Truth is, if someone has never bashed their head against a wall, they're not really being true to themselves as an artist.

    Same thing rings out bro, always : keep at it.

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    dang, those female studies are kicking ass.

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    Absolutely fantastic and inspirational to see your progress! Awesome.

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    jolly good show cant wait fo some mo!

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    good progress i gota get some of thoes anatomy studies under my belt too.
    keep it up

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    Looks like those anatomy studies are paying off

    keep on the good work

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    brilliant progress and improvement from the first pages.
    i recognise the woman from a stock account on da, lovely rendering, very soft.
    eager to see more from you

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    Hey man, great progress. Seems like you can be a little harsh on yourself, but I'm the same way. I dunno if that's beneficial or not, but I think it can be a sign of simply having high standards. Looks like you've overcome the hardest part of learning to draw, which is commiting to do it.

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    great progress, i think you'll have to rename your thread soon ;D

    quotes are great inspirations for images sometimes eh?
    I think allegories and myths are something artists approach for a good reason too... So much involved.

    In any case, keep up the work!

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    Jason the studies are great and also this sex bomb!! Wow your doing something here, nice!! and happy NY

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    Stopping by with the obligatory encouragement comment! For who am I to critique you? Nah, kidding, I would if I saw anything but I don't. Last lady study looks great. You make me feel bad for neglecting my anatomy studies *cough* so anyway...

    Keep going!

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    Internet ate my post... sorry for no replies, but I'll send a blanket thank you to you all
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    So I've been away for a while. I was busy with finishing up a graphic design job and working on the battle of the sexes entry, but I got a little more busy with jobs so had to quit it.

    Here's my failed battle of the sexes attempt, I may try to finish it up sometime:

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    And here's some preliminary work for one of the weirdest jobs ever (commissioned by the girl being depicted no less)... When it's finished it'll be 5 pages pencil and one full colour. I'll post up the full description with the final product when I'm done. The following pics aren't in sequence and represent 2 different scenarios.

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