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    Hey there, it's good to be honest, especially to yourself. Gotta admit the reality of what's happening before you can advance.


    The last few posts strike me as being very garish in color. Take a look outside, have a look at the plants and trees. I know we're all used to using colors symbolically, you think plants and your mind automatically thinks green.
    However if you have a look outside or even at some photos of environments you'll notice a pure green is rarely found. "Paint the color you see, not the color you think" - is a good rule of thumb.

    Dailies are a great habit by the way, keep it up!
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    i think your pencil peaces are really good but on your digital peaces think about the stroke before you put it donw because it seems as if you are laying them down randomly.
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    wow man you just keep improving and improving its awsome.

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    Surprise! SSG

    Cwn Anwnn - Thanks, and thanks for getting our SSG going. You're completely right about the colors. I was squinting at stuff the whole day trying to find points of contrast, and i was too fed up/tired to try and find better colors last night. I definately need to work with color from life.

    Guitarjames - Thanks. Yeah, i really have no idea what i'm doing painting so half of the time i just throw stuff on and refine it later. I'm studying real painting right now but its a 1.5 hour a week class so its taking some time, but i'll try and translate what i learn to digital. Time to be more careful and act like i know what i'm doing!

    Sweetoblivion314 - Thanks, i appriciate it.

    I got the chance to draw some more horses today. It was kind've awkward because there were a bunch of people watching me draw... All but the last two were done in charcoal 5-15 minutes, and the last two were ball point pen. Last there are some pictures of the horses so you can see what i was working from.

    Here are my morning doodles. They started out drowsy and fast but as i woke up/warmed up i took longer on them and they turned into studies by the time i got home. Trying to work on those silly female shoulders. These are mostly reffed from civardi's Drawing the Human Body.

    Hmm, another chronologically backwards post.

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    No probs at all Fishspawn.

    Good to see the horse studies. (Yeah I know, I'm animal biased but hehe.)
    It's heartening to see you doing quick studies of the horses and not fussing over an image too much. The first few charcoal ones have weird leg joints happening but by the time you got to the pen you had sorted it out. Just some proportionality issues left but it's already a great improvement.

    Neat human anatomy studies too. Keep at it. You're doing a good amount of work.
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    wow large update which is good,i can see the horse sketches geting beeter as they go along which is cool, my favrouite is the charcol that is not rendered.keep it up
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    Your humans are getting better and better. The horses are nice too, i like the charcoal outlines and penn ones. It shows you can see how the anatomy of the horse goes. But it seems like you lost that when you drew the dark shaded in horses. Im not sure what you did there but it doesnt seem right.

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    Pasadisneynaland

    Cwn Annwn - Thanks. I had fun doing them

    guitarjames - Glad you like it, i'll try and carry that feel into my rendered ones.

    sweetoblivion314 - Yeah i agree, i chose charcoal because it is fast but i was trying to render with little erasing and i wasn't thinking about what i was doing. I should have focused less on value and more on energy. ~Thanks.

    Here are some more shoulder studies, i still have problems with those silly shoulders every time. Again i was waking up and the later ones are later in the day. The horse is just ugh. I was going to go into it but i lost my drive and rushed - it doesn't even have the right number of ribs. By rushed i mean the amount of time i considered a study to take a few weeks ago. I GUESS you could critique it but its not worth your time - the shoulders are much more finished and need helpings of beans or lotion or something.

    On another note I'm going to be taking a week long class at Art Center College of Design in Pasadena next week. I'll be leaving tomorrow and i get to go to disneyland over the weekend, so posts may be tiny . I should get plenty of drawing done, however, and i believe i will have means to post it. If not, look forward to a colossal post after my class...

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    good update espeacilly the arms the only thing that lets them down is the hands so practice them and also try and do two hands interacting with eachother.
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    Good start but you need to refine your sketches more. I had the same problem: i tried to do it all with one pencil. Start sketching with a 2H, doing construction lines and shapes. Erase the faulty and unnecessary ones. Then use a softer pencil (HB) to draw the lines you really need. And when you start shading, use an even softer pencil, like 2B or so. It takes some time and some discipline, but it's the only way.

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    Great update. The horse and anatomy sketches are great! More life studies (you mentioned you were taking more classes, so I'll wait to see that update) and you've got a brilliant sketch...improving alot

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    Good to see arm studies, some of those have a good sense of movement happening. I chuckled a bit when I saw the crab claw thing happening. Don't despair at doing hands yet.

    Hands are tricky to get right and a lot people have trouble doing them, myself included.

    I'm not sure about bartovan's 2h recommendation, just making really light lines with a 2b works for me. I find 2h is too hard and sharp to draw with comfortably. I guess as I mentioned before it all comes down personal preference.
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    Guitarjames - Thanks, i'll try that.

    Bartovan - Hmm, i had thought about that but i always figured it wasn't much different. I'll give it a try. Thanks.

    Saikin - Thanks very much!

    Cwn Annwn - Heh. I enjoyed doing that crab claw >.>... Thanks for the kind words, hands and faces are still my biggest concern.

    Not much to say. I didn't have access to a comp for 2 days, today was the first day of class. Fun and hard work! I have much more in my sketchbook but i'm taking pics with a camera so this is just newsprint stuff. Mostly in nupastel.

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    keep it up,but im not sure but the feet on the second from last look a bit large and the last ones face looks streched back,
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    Not a bad update. I like the gestures.

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