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    Tom Garden throwing in "Last COW Standing" idea

    Tom Garden suggested an idea for COW, i opened this thread over here, so everyone can comment (originally it was posted in the topic ideas thread, but a communication over there would mess the thread up )

    Tom Garden:

    " COW Last man Standing

    So i'd like to announce the possability of a last man standing competition for C.O.W which, with permission of Fozz, i'm quite happy sorting out and monitoring...unless you want to do it Fozz, then by all means do

    I picture this kind of competition to go alongside the weekly C.O.W chellenges - as of course, we want to keep the flow going and not miss out on the brilliant creatures from people who get knocked out in the rounds.

    Maybe we should call it, Last COW standing? perhaps? Well - anyways thats the whole point of this topic and the one posted in the COW group

    I thought if we run it in the same way the last man works...

    - get a list of 50-100 entrants
    - divide by random selection into groups of, i think 3-4 - this way the first run of it wont last as long, and we get more range in the vote offs!!!
    - Have weekly deadlines for each C.O.W until the quarter to semi finals, which i think would be great to give our artists 1 &1/2 or 2 weeks time to get some REALLY speacial work done
    - Possible prize - no idea what, maybe a king crown icon?

    I hope this all works well and we get a lot of people interested!

    Everyone post your thoughts and crits on the idea, is it good bad, what can we improve?!

    If everyone is on board i'm planning on kicking this of around the end of june 25th onwards - no reason but that gives us plenty of time to get the thoughts ironed out and enough people interested to sign up

    Righto everyone.....comment away!"

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    Sounds pretty neat, but it would have to be a meaty briefing, ie there'd have to be enough conditions. For example, use of a background is obligatory, use of orthos too. Maybe we can do something in the lines of the conceptart cohesion thread we did a while ago, only bigger. come to think of it, that would be the final test, if you had to succeed across all disciplines. I don't know, just spamming it from the top of my brain now.

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    whatever you come up with at the end...i would suggest to wait at least until round 1 of LMS is done (09th July)...

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    I think the Concept Art Cohesion thing was pretty cool. Maybe do something along these lines;

    Last COW Standing

    - 1 Month/ 4 Cows
    - Lets say we get 100 entrants (dunno if we will get that many)

    This is just an example:

    Week 1 - VidaNova Genetic Troop Transport.
    - 4 Way Battles, Only 25 make it out alive.


    Week 2 - VidaNova Recon & Survaillence Creature.
    - 3 Way Battles/one 4 way, 8 survivors


    Week 3 - VidaNova Heavy Lifter Creature
    - 2 Way Battles, 4 survivors


    Week 4 - VidaNova Mining worm
    - 4 Way Dukeout, 1 Ultimate COW champion.

    Maybe 1 month would be too short, I dunno maybe make it 2 months with 2 weeks per COW?
    Just throwin some ideas out there.

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    Great idea, I'd be down.

    Yes'd

    +1 brainstorming:
    2 months seems like a long time for a creature design. Sounds more like a whole scene design, in which case it may benefit from a brief that has a scenario to depict as well. Alternatively, maybe contestants could illustrate a few different aspects of the creature's lifestyle (eating, hunting, gettin jiggy, etc.... Maybe not the last part).

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    Tyranx, I like your idea.

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    whatever it will be...we won't make anything with long time spans for the entries...i experienced over the years that 1 week is enough to do a proper artwork...you work maximum about 10 hours on an image, and people watching and participating lose their attention and interest.

    Also the general tension is decreasing if you don't have it in mind...

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    I think it's a great idea!

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    I personally thin kthis would disrupt the COWs and maybe interupt the current LMS, but I suppose people in the current LMS could just not enter this one. I don't see how this is really any different than the COW really, just more people. Why not just focus efforts on getting more entrants in the cow? Since basically the COW is like the last round of an LMS anyway.

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    Yes Mike, thats the idea.... plus there is a huge list of people who didnt get into the LMS who are probably good COW's

    Tyranx, thats the right kinda plan - with the whole vidanova theme....what is that? sorry i dont know, do you mean a unified design throughout the comp?

    And i think for a starter doing this for 1 month would be really good, to test out how well it works..

    Also yeh, postponing it till after the character of the week round too. And if people are up for the LMS we can juggle whos fighting and when.

    To make this very different from the weekly COW's is i think as walnut said - to have well briefed topic ideas, such as a creature that is actively doing something, so its not just a standard pose with it just standing. ie...
    A collossal transport creature, rears up against its tamers

    Gives us the added extra of some environment and movement with the COW.

    btw - thankyou everyone for liking the idea! i'm very very pleased its gone down well with you guys, i'm kinda new to it all so i'm happy its looking like a great fun challenge!!!

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    i propose a rather different idea.

    let's give this a run of 8 weeks -> 1 COW per week.
    entrants -> as many as there are willing. anyone that misses any 1 submission is disqualified.

    the 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounds, everyone takes part. a panel of judges will award points based on a set of criteria, each round is worth 10 points, 3 rounds = 30. you need a minimum of 20? points to continue on to the 4th round.

    4th & 5th.
    requirements will be tougher for this. each round is worth 25, so a total of 50. with more points = more criterias that have to be fulfilled. you need 35-40 points to go the next stage.

    6th & 7th.
    depending on number of remaining survivors, only 3 members can clear this round. say if there're less than 5 particpants, we don't need the 8th week. winner can be decided here.

    8th.
    3 way battle.

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    i think that starts to get over complicated and rely on many people for the voting....plus i feel the polls are fairer way of deciding.

    This idea is good - but maybe not for the first session perhaps?

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