THE PHOTO CHALLENGE - rules, guidelines and suggestions
okay, since every now and then there came up specific questions and suggestions regarding the photo challenge, i thought it would be a good idea to create a thread where we can kind of collect everything.
so this is the place where you can post problems you have with the rules and suggestions to make the challenge better... or different.
besides all that i thought it would be good to give a small "history" of the challenge so that new members can have a look at the "making of" different rules.
so, this is "where it all began" (again, thanks to barret! ), the first photo challenge (with discussion about the basic rules)
and these are the rules the way they are at the moment:
1. Only one picture per contestant.
2. No previously used material.
3. The winner of the last poll will set the next topic; if the same person stands as the winner two times in a row, he or she must choose another user to present the next topic
4. Enhancements of the picture (hue/saturation and levels) are allowed, but a minimum of Brushing etc.(Photomanipulation is subjective to conceptart.org member votes, your photo will be dismissed if too manipulated).
5. No voting for your own picture.
6. The challenge starts Monday, poll opens Friday and closes Sunday. the winner starts a new post on the photo forum that is named"The Photo challenge - the chosen topic".
7. The poll shall be opened Friday evening.
8. In the event of a tie in the polls, the person who created the challenge casts the tie breaking vote.
9. The winner has until 18:00/6:00 pm (GMT +2) Monday, after he or she has won to present the next topic, if the winner fails to do so. the topic will be presented by the 2nd place person on the poll
okay, after that "general" stuff the recent discussion:
first thing we should decide is whether or not previously posted photos should be able to take part in the challenge or not. please vote in the poll above and maybe state why you voted the way you did.
another question would be whether we should have a small crew of people taking care of the polls.
and third would be (i guess) whether a title should be given or not.
that's it from me, i'm going to make the poll for the first problem now. looking forward to your suggestions!
oh, and if you have a better idea for the title of this thread, just post that, too...
How do you plan on verifying the "freshness" of the photos?
You do know that it's quite immpossible. Oooooh, cmooon, dont take it so personally. I could have removed the photo from my thread before posting it in the challege. Anyways, its absurd. But, then again, i guess thats what this debate is all about.
Hm... I assumed the rule meant that "photos previously shown on this forum are disallowed". So not the first choice... But I wouldn't limit it just to pictures taken after the topic was set, so can't vote for the second option either (Not that it could be enforced anyway).
The poll should probably be maintained by a moderator so we won't have the kind of embarrassing situations like we just did.
there are a number of ways to police the hole thing, but there are a number of ways around them 2. I beleve that people should not use materail they have displayed in this forum at the very least. Its a ideal situation if you go out and take a picture specificaly for the chalange. But hey some of us also have otherthings to do apart from walk around taking pictures for a forum comp? well not me any how there is a easy way to tell how old a image is and thats from the image data tag the camera attaches to the photo when its taken, the draw back is that this can be removed/alterd. All all honasty though i dont think people would do that in here as it goes agains the spirit of things. There are no easy ansews. things are going to be jujed on a ass is bases, perfurably though PM so there is no public floging. there should be a couple of people here though that can be PM'd to sort out the fall out from anything though (comp wise)
In my opinion it should be allowed to use old pictures in the challenge.
There are a lot of people who do not have enough time to take a picture for each topic. In my opinion they shouldn't be barred from this challenge. I mean if they have already a picture which fits to the topic why should they not be allowed to participate?
Some people say that the challenge forces them to go out and take some new pictures. That is good, no question. But do we really need a challenge for that?
Wouldn't we punish all the people who take photos besides the challenge?
Everyone who needs the challenge as an incitation to take photos could go on also without the rule.
You know, we are going to have to stick to the old "trust" method whether we like it or not.
If you submit a photo, i am going to believe that it is new.. or has not been seen before without calling the FBI to check and authenticate that it has been already shown on the net. (Which you can do by selecting image properties and looking up the date of creation *this can be misleading as the author has control over the date function on his/her camera* but is usually fairly accurate)
For the most part that just means that we want you to get creative in terms of taking the picture. Nobody will know that its an old picture if you already took it, and sometimes I think that is ok. Its not ideal, but its not the end of the world. And if its already been posted, its a little redundant. Also, the real point of this challenge is to improve as photographers and stretch our thinking, and going through and picking out of our archives is going to help us change and improve as photographers.
Also, if we allow ourselves to use old pictures, then might I ask what is the point of the challenge?
Lastly, nobody says "you have to participate in every challenge". I have a FILM camera, its very hard to get pictures done in time for the challenge, but nevertheless, I find ways to do it. Some weeks I have a picture in time, someitmes I don't, and if I don't, but I took some pictures then I can post them. But not everybody has time to take pictures for the challenge everyweek. You do it if you can.
lol, no comment, its a good photo to be fair, i feel as you do. But i have the time to go out and take pictures for the comp. I do however understand were the otehr side are comming from. But if i used my archive of picture, and beleve me i could, I wound never have to think out side the box in order to win,,,,, or mosty not as the case may be
same here. i think the challenge is simply more fair when everybody has the same amount of time to shoot a picture, regardless of how long they've been taking photos in their life before. although i can understand the time issue. but as molly said, when i don't have the time to go out and take pictures i simply don't take part in this week's challenge and wait for the next...