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    why can't i draw what the hell I am imagining?

    I would think of a spectacular image to draw but when my pen touches the paper than I end up drawing crap. any help on how to approach this problem?

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    PRACTICE! Sorry to say, but years and years of practice.

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    Ditto.....I had the same problem a while back when I started school. But I am a lot better and quicker about it now, after lots of drawing. Try blocking in simple shapes, then refine them a little bit, then a little more, and more until you got it.

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    Yeah dude, it all comes down to years of study and practice. Theres no easy way into this game my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustinBeckett
    Yeah dude, it all comes down to years of study and practice. Theres no easy way into this game my friend.
    isn`t it the main factor that it is so involving? no matter who you are... you have the same chances to be the best...

    ad. main question: i have to repeat what was already said.. practise! try to copy pics of somebody and make your own shape, your own line... just feel this...

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    and you should probably draw from your imagination AND from life, not just one or the other.

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    well i agree with all the comments..also it would help a lot if you learn draftsmanship.. (the andrew loomis books explains you that) that includes..mainly perspective and anatomy..copy a few drawings..the idea is to forget you have a flat piece of paper...treat it as a window in space..so you are able to create anything..(it goes back to the basic geometric primitives..the cone,sphere,cube,cilinder,egg, and all the derivations of it..)

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    dont listen to any of these fools...
    one day you will wake up and start drawing like a master...trust me its gonna happen.

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    I honestly don't mean to sound like an ass, but how well do you draw what is in front of you? It doesn't matter how crystal clear you imagination is if you can't draw well what you see.

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    I have to agree with everyone else .. practice practice practice!!! Do five sketches a day .. do ten, twenty how ever many time allows and you will improve.. take a sketchbook everywhere .. to the diner.. to the park .. to the doctor's office (while you are waiting for hours) and draw all you see .. and draw what you think of .. and combine the two ... draw everything!!! And don't pull one of those I'm just not as tallented as .. add name here.. everyone has the potential to do something and be something great!


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    Don't just practice -- practice smart. Try to have forethought, I can't stress this enough. If you practice too much without knowing where you're going, without having goals, I guarantee you'll burn out. I burned out that way, and I'm still trying to recover from it.

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ok, a summary of all this shit above










DRAW!!!

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    Draw is usually the solution, but I find, if you are truley dedicated, truly serious about art... you must go beyond the pencil, explore with your eyes. OBSERVE EVERYTHING. Every night I sit here scanning my drawings and typing on the keyboard, I am also watching my hands, watching the bones and the veins and the blackness that receds when a certain plane tilts a certain way twoards the screen, I wonder about how deep my fingers are, I try to feel them in space, against the air. I watch the extents to which they can bend, and try to understand why they can only bend so far. How do the bones connect? is the the skin that won't rip that holds it? How is my hand lit when I hold it up to the screen? How can I see my hand when It's not immersed in the light? Why can I see it? Then how can I include that in my art, how can I use it to aid my composition? I try to look at how shadows fall in different situations? All of it, all of this important.

    Draw, look, draw, see, draw, draw, nap, draw, look.


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    Here's an interesting link about this. http://www.amateur.org.uk/ior/ior.htm Got it from sleeperservice's sketchbook.

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    ... welllll..... besides practicing like a maniac, you can also concentrate really hard on what you see in your head, and make sure to draw *exactly* what you see in your head, from the exact angle, with the exact shapes, or you'll end up trying to draw some sort of cubist nightmare where your hand tries to put the entire 3D object in a 2D space.

    squishy

    Look, you know what I mean. You take a bunch of people who don’t seem any different from you or me, but when you add them all together you get this sort of huge raving maniac with national borders and an anthem.
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    why can't i draw what the hell I am imagining?
    Possibly because your imagination is not as precise as you think it is. The brain is not a video recorder, and holds details for a surpringly short period of time. And I mean short. I find that, if I position my sketch pad or canvas wrongly, so that I have to move my head away from what I'm drawing or painting, I often can't hold necessary details in my mind for the extra fraction of second it takes betweem looking at my subject and making a mark.

    Draw what's in front of you. And position yourself to minimise the amount of time it takes to glance between your subject and your work.

    OK, eventually you'll get to be able to draw from your imagination. One day, I think I might be able to do that.

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    I've found sculpture (in my case 3d sculpture) is great for forcing you to think in three dimensions and being able to deconstruct your mental image into volumes and planes within a three dimensional setting. Being able to think around and through your image is vital for recreating it on paper, remember the paper is like a transparent viewing plane through which you're seeing the object(s) and that you're drawing it from one of many arbitrary angles. And understand that to a large extent, drawing is one part science (creating recognizable objects) and one part art (doing it in an aesthetically pleasing way).

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    Poor thing wants to draw, Stwaight away! Life drawing classes, obersvational drawing, and sketching people is a good way to start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fl3wk
    Poor thing wants to draw, Stwaight away!
    What's wrong with ambition?

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    Nothing. i never said it was wrong.

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    Do tons and tons o' studies. read alot of books on art/drawing and pick other artists brains to get your self ahead. oh and DRAW at least 8 - 12 hours a day. itll keep the crapiness away [ no offense ] but practice makes perfect.

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    Oh and do NOT steer away from your imagination! I have and its a pain getting it back! All I did for the last 3 moths was studying the Anatomy and Oil paints. Now, I have no imagination! So tough, but I will get it back eventually.

    So, mix it up with studies AND your own stuff. Use what you learned in your studies on your personal work.

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    Art is something you are born with, either you show natural talent or you don't, if you do it will come, if you don't it won't. If you have it don't be lazy and draw all the time, even if it's biro on a text book.(not that i promote vandalism).

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    All that have posted say the samething except Keeno... which I agree with... to a point.

    Natural talent can only take you so far... skill must be applied to advance to the next level. However, the same is true of skill. One can not make you a great artist or whatever you are doing. The sad thing is that talent can't be learned, skill can... but with a buttload of skill one can emulate talent... keyword being "emulate" not replace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronologic
    I would think of a spectacular image to draw but when my pen touches the paper than I end up drawing crap. any help on how to approach this problem?
    I guarantee my four step process works! It did wounders for me!

    1. Hit your head on a desk for like five minutes
    2. Drink a twelve pack
    3. Rub one out
    4. Go to sleep

    The next day you should be able to draw anything and everything!
    This is copyrited material from my book, so don't even think about stealing it. (lol, j/k)

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    Why can't I play the piano well?

    I'm a concert pianist in the making. I have no interest in learning to read music, or practicing scales, or taking lessons. I just want to walk on the stage and play like a prodigy.

    What the heck is wrong? What's the trick to this piano thing anyway?

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    lol the unregistered User is nutso !

    look I dont know why I love you I just do
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    Just practice m8. Study Anatomy, perspective, line use.....ect. It will come.

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    going from general to specific will give you more control over the final image. It will give you a better conceptualization of what your final image will look like. You can change it whenever you want till it you get it right before moving to the next level of detail, not having to erase 5 minutes of detailing just to realize you had that arm in the wrong gesture heh works for me ^^

    yes practice helps too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronologic
    I would think of a spectacular image to draw but when my pen touches the paper than I end up drawing crap. any help on how to approach this problem?
    Learn how to not draw crap.


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