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    Cow What's More Important, Drawing from the Imagination or Drawing from Life?

    I know drawing is important, period, but it seems you have artists that draw strictly from life or artists that draw strictly from the imagination.......is there an in between?

    I've noted that a lot of times the way we draw from the imagination seems different from how we draw our life drawings, so I'm trying to figure out how life drawing carries over to your imagination?


    Hey, somebody has to ask this stuff. Most of the questions around here seem to be about wacoms or what software is better or what does your desktop look like.....blah blah blah, yawn.....

    Give the question a little swirl before you knock it down.

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    The trick is to put life into your imagination.

    Jamen jag tror att han skäms, och har gömt sig. Vårt universum det är en av dom otaliga spermasatser som Herren i sin självhärliga ensamhet har runkat fram för å besudla intet.
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    And with that this thread is done .

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSeRider
    ...it seems you have artists that draw strictly from life or artists that draw strictly from the imagination
    Where are you pulling this from? Have you even looked at any of the hundreds of artists out there who draw from both?

    Quote Originally Posted by NoSeRider
    Give the question a little swirl before you knock it down.
    Possibly you should have given the question a little swirl before you asked it, because it's completely inane. If you list a few artists who draw strictly from their imagination or strictly from life, I'll list you a bunch more who draw from both. Wes Burt springs to mind as the most obvious choice.

    Also, what Prometheus said.

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    There ya go.

    Tear down a person rather then the examine the question.

    I just love people.

    I don't see anything factual in your rebuttal MOP.....just a lot of feelings.

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    You might also try being a little imaginative with your life drawing


    Check these pdfs out. They are about that kind of stuff.

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    Dude really.
    Drop being all offended. They are right on track. Thats why alot of people do life drawings they are trying to infleunce their imaginative work with the world around them. Personally i have yet too see some art that is "strictly from imagination"

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    I just don't see why people can't detach themselves?

    Draw from life so your anatomy won't suck. That's factual. I understand that.

    But what we draw from life does look different from the 'ideal' image we make from our imagination that we draw........If I'm wrong, state it.

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    It got nothing to do with people detaching themselves.

    We draw from life so we can see what something looks like and apply that to our drawings. Ofcourse it would look diffrent, your skippin over those imperfections and drawing what you think it should look like in your mind. Thats why you draw from life, to realise what those little imperfections are and to go "oh!!" and include them in your imaginatiive works. Why would we want to draw an "ideal image" when its the little real bits that make it believable. Thats atleast what i think most people are trying to do, see those elements that make something realistic and then applying them to their imaginative stuff to give it weight. Also i can image that for instance with something from imagination you can start of with an abstract shape and make it up from there, as upposed to a still life painting where you are clearly drawing whats infront of you I can easily see how it may look diffrent. If thats not it im not sure if understand your question at all. I suspect your mind skips over alot of things when you just invent something look at a childs drawing its very basic and iconic. It shows a sun and a little girl in the most simple terms. Real life is terribly complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Rook
    Personally i have yet too see some art that is "strictly from imagination"
    i draw strictly from my imagination hate life drawing

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    The answer to your question, though it seems you've changed it, is that both are equally important. I my self have made light years of improvement in my personal work, or my work from imagination, all because I have been focusing on life drawing for the last 3 years.

    Even works, that have no human form in it what so-ever seem to take on a new deminsion from the way my mind now understands depth, light, shadow, yada yada. It's important because it trains your brain to think in a new way, and that transfurs into your works from your imagination.

    The "ideal" image we have in our heads is only spliced together from what we have seen from life. And lots of the time what people draw of their "ideal" image from their head, is a bunch of crap. Like this horde of anime kids that think anime is the only art that exists. I want to crap on those duche bags faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WolfBane
    i draw strictly from my imagination hate life drawing
    the hell?

    http://i2.tinypic.com/zjgvoj.jpg
    you drew that take a look at it very carefully. Now tell me where all the infleunces came from. Personally i say samurai, people, basic human anatomy, the ninja from metal gear solid. Now dont try and tell me that you didnt use your eyeballs to pick up that information, mix it up in your mind and stick it on paper. Whether you drew directly from life or not is irrelevant, but you certainly didnt invent all those things off the top of your head. You observed them somewhere in real life and then applied them to your drawing. Dont go giving yourself too much credit now if it wasnt a recognisable element in real life, no one else would have the faintest clue what it was.

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    you drew that take a look at it very carefully. Now tell me where all the infleunces came from.
    Comic books and Star Wars.....at least that's my personal experience.

    Life Drawing is not a Comic Book or Star Wars, but the person that made Comic Books or Star Wars probably took life drawing, so you might be learning life drawing vicariously?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSeRider
    I don't see anything factual in your rebuttal MOP.....just a lot of feelings.
    What? Feelings?

    Wes Burt draws people from life.
    Wes Burt also draws things from his imagination.

    How is that a feeling? He doesn't draw exclusively from either one, but a mix of both. I'm just using Wes as an example here, but there are loads more artists who draw from both.

    So what the hell are you talking about?

    People drawing exclusively from their imagination will result in big abstract canvases of colour and shape. Anything that even looks vaguely lifelike is not 100% from imagination, since it uses references based in life, in reality.

    So maybe you should examine your question again and either make it more specific, or drop the whole thing.

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    OK, I see alot of feelings, threats and some facts.

    Just detach yourself a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSeRider
    OK, I see alot of feelings, threats and some facts.

    Just detach yourself a bit.

    whaaaatt?! where?!

    Mop is spot on, hes not threatning anyone. And i was asking wolfbane where the infleunces came from. Star wars and comic books are very rooted in reality, your imagination is ENTIRELY made up oif things you have observed. You are constantly infleunced by the world around you there is absolutely no question about it.

    what feeling and threats? He gave you an honest response. Suck it up a little if you read a threat in that theres gunna be issues when someone really threatens you.

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    I was talking to MoP

    So what the hell are you talking about?
    Seems like a whole lotta feeling to me.

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    this is mind boggling.

    It was a QUESTION. Go look it up. Not an emotional state of beeing.

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    you drew that take a look at it very carefully. Now tell me where all the infleunces came from.

    Comic books and Star Wars.....at least that's my personal experience.

    Life Drawing is not a Comic Book or Star Wars, but the person that made Comic Books or Star Wars probably took life drawing, so you might be learning life drawing vicariously?
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    I'd rather get onto the question on hand, because a lot of people seem to learn that way.

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    ummm this thread is stupid the whole question was stupid someone close it

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    Marko claims to be self taught.

    Answer that.

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    he still studied anatomy books and such

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    A book is not life drawing......it sounds like learning vicariously.

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    well u know what this whole thing is pointless!!
    stop ur bitching about whats more important and draw
    because in all honesty this thread is silly

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoSeRider
    Marko claims to be self taught.

    Answer that.

    Dude i have no doubt he still observed and tried to remember what people look like, their features what gives them expressions etc even if he wasnt drawing them at the time. And since when is being selftaught synonymous with not drawing from observation?

    really you confuse me to death i dont understand what your trying to argue.

    This is possibly the dumbest thread ive eveer been involved in. What is the point to an argument like this it goes round in circles. you dont seem to listena dny our offended at every word. Enough

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    I've noted that a lot of times the way we draw from the imagination seems different from how we draw our life drawings, so I'm trying to figure out how life drawing carries over to your imagination?

    People learn in different ways. I just want people's experiences, not absolutes. This isn't about whose right.

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    this thread is silly
    SILLY
    SILLY
    DRAW!!!
    DRAW!!!
    drawing from life helps ur imaginative powers so stop asking silly
    questions and draw so u can discover the answer urself!

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    Red_Rook: I love your sig -
    Originally Posted by dogfood
    Sarcasm sometimes grips me like an octopus helmet.
    Who did that painting again?

    [Always remember that if a topic seems uninteresting, then it's just because you are picturing a solution that lacks vigor.] - William b. Hand
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    Goes to show that you should only talk about Wacom tablets and what your desktop looks like in *The Lounge*...

    LONG LIVE YOKO KANNO!!!
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    learning is about asking questions.
    and this site is about learning right?
    sorry i'm no admin or anything so i could be wrong with that.

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