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  • Complete success, changes gaming, your grandma buys one.

    23 32.39%
  • Quite good, has some troubles but puts N in a sure lead.

    33 46.48%
  • Okay, but not all that in retrospect.

    8 11.27%
  • Pretty bad, remote controller doesn't work well, too slow for the competition.

    4 5.63%
  • Complete failure, Nintendo will get in serious trouble.

    3 4.23%
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    Wii success?

    How well will Wii do?
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    Fanboyism aside (as much as possible for me!) I think it is impossible for the Wii to do worse than the gamecube did. Therefor it doesn't "fail" by default.
    That aside, I think the Wii will be very successful. Talking about 1st 2nd and 3rd is very hard to do right now, but I do strongly believe that the Wii will have a very strong fighting chance to gain 2nd or 3rd place worldwide.
    E3 had nothing but positive reports for the Wii, even PS3 and Xbox360 fans at least acknowledged that this years E3 was won by Nintendo. You should have seen the queue's! People wanted to play!!

    Of course, every console has it's ups and downs, pros and cons. The Wii will not sell to every house-hold in Europe, US and Japan. However, realistically I do strongly believe the Wii will be hugely successful. And fucking fun!!


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    if anything this technology means that everyone will know about this system. And when it comes time this fall for parents to choose between a PS3 and a Wii, I think the choice is clear.

    300-400 dollars cheaper?
    Child-friendly games?
    My kids will be more active and won't be vegging on the couch all day?
    Huge backlibrary of titles that I used to play way back when?
    Where do I sign up?

    I also think that anyone who fits into the general gaming demographic (which, these days, lands the majority of gamers between ages 20 and 40) people aren't going to want to take a chunk out of their salary or skip their rent payments to pick up a PS3, especially with the lack of quality titles it's looking to have at launch.

    Then again, I said the same about the PS2 way back when, we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
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    I think thats definately the case easytiger, its the most appealing out of all three next gen consoles....

    Yeah cai theres no way it can do worse than the gamecube. Its good reading comments from sony and microsoft, pretty much telling people to go and buy a wii.. although i might be tempted by a 360 in a couple of years...
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    Personally, I think the Wii will kill on christmas season. Just for the 300 dollar cheaper deal. also, anybody can play the Wii! It's so far the most ingenious out of the 3 consoles. .....I CANT WAIT! ok..ok i need to chill..yea... god i love the Wii!!!!!


    Don't get me wrong i'll still buy a ps3.... just after my wii!
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    i am almost dead set on getting a wii. The only system from nintendo ive owned was a snes, but the wii is catching my eye imensly. The price, the controler, the possibilities, and the games simply get my all giddy inside.
    i just wish mgs4 and assasins creed were coming out for wii. Then i wouldnt have to blink twice.
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    There's nothing that's going to stop me from getting a Wii, even if the PS3 debuts at $50 bucks.
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    These polls make the same false assumption -- that the success of a game console is related to its quality in any way.

    Let's face it, the Dreamcast was one of the best consoles ever released, but fat lot of good that did against the Sony hype machine.

    Will the Wii change gaming? It already has.

    Will the Wii make a tidy profit for Nintendo? Of course, Nintendo always profits every generation.

    Will the Wii become the market leader? Does anybody really care? Does Nintendo even care? They don't seem to most of the time.
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    Doesn't Nintendo do this with every system they ever come out with? Wait six months to a year after the competition comes out. I can only hope the the PS3 and Wii launches aren't the disasterous dissappointment that was the 360. With a new super mario title, and the legend of zelda as launch titles, i will find it very hard to pass up, especially since this console will be affordable.

    Does anyone know how much access to the old nintendo library will cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nofingers
    Doesn't Nintendo do this with every system they ever come out with? Wait six months to a year after the competition comes out. I can only hope the the PS3 and Wii launches aren't the disasterous dissappointment that was the 360. With a new super mario title, and the legend of zelda as launch titles, i will find it very hard to pass up, especially since this console will be affordable.

    Does anyone know how much access to the old nintendo library will cost?
    Rumors I've heard indicate that the games will be priced based on which console they originally appeared on with prices expected to be something like:

    NES = $3
    SNES = $5
    N64 = $10

    I have no idea how reliable those numbers are, but that seems like a good price point to me. It's not so much money as to encourage people to download ROMs instead, but it's enough to probably make some profit after deducting the cost of porting/serving.

    Clearly, Nintendo wants to make their money on volume rather than margins as far as downloadable content goes.
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    I still have that Metroid Prime game I won in the ThunderDome. I'm not able to play it cuz it's American region and I don't have a GC anyways. Will the Wii be region free for GC? Is it possible with the PAL/NTSC deal going on?


    MEP> It is of course impossible to tell how well any console is going to do at this stage, not even the well paid marketing guys at the big companies know.

    The poll merely asks how well people here on CA think the console is going to do on a scale from 1-5. The text is just so you know what the rating is worth. I should have numbered them. It'll be interesting to see in retrospect how right or wrong the polls were. It's a pity that you can't see who voted on what so you can rub it in their face later .
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    It will be a success. The Wii is not a completely new console like the PS3 and Xbox 360. Comparable to these two it's more of an hardware upgrade to the GC (some of the first dev kits were just GC's with a non-cordless Wii-mote, as you can read in some articles and interviews). So Nintendo will probably make money on the hardware from the start and did not have a R&D budget as big as Microsoft and Sony. And Nintendo doesn't have to depend on high software sales and other stuff to compensate for that. In addition the Nintendo DS is still growing so that gives Nintendo two consoles that make money while the other two companies are still investing money in their console.
    And since Nintendo has been chushed by the original PS it has slowly been growing and will at some point (in my opinion) surpass it's old glory (NES and SNES times). And there are a lot of third party developers who believe in the console (compared to Nintendo's last two consoles) so there will be more games.

    Nintendos success at E3 shows that gamers like the console and with their aim to spread their userbase into the non-gamer sector they seem to beonly missing the 'average gamer' who likes shiny graphics and the next EA Madden game. If everything goes as Nintendo hopes/plans then Wii could end up to win the 'most consoles sold' race against PS3 and Xbox 360.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Mario
    The Wii is not a completely new console like the PS3 and Xbox 360. Comparable to these two it's more of an hardware upgrade to the GC (some of the first dev kits were just GC's with a non-cordless Wii-mote, as you can read in some articles and interviews). So Nintendo will probably make money on the hardware from the start and did not have a R&D budget as big as Microsoft and Sony. And Nintendo doesn't have to depend on high software sales and other stuff to compensate for that. In addition the Nintendo DS is still growing so that gives Nintendo two consoles that make money while the other two companies are still investing money in their console.
    I would venture to say that the Xbox 360 is nothing more than a hardware upgrade over the Xbox. I mean seriously, where's the innovation in that thing? It's just a faster PC than the last Xbox was.

    The PS3 is the same thing, a faster PC than the last Xbox was. You read that right. It's not an upgrade of anything Sony has done. The Playstation was cobbled together in haste (still a good system, and I still have mine, but it really was thrown together last minute). The PS2's bandwidth-heavy memory-light architecture was unlike any game console before (but similar to the way graphics workstations used to be made) and the development hurdles on that platform were the primary reason why the game line up was filled with losers for the first year.

    The PS3 is more in line with MS's philosophy of console architecture -- build it simple, make it PC-like, give it plenty of power. There's nothing wrong with that, but there is nothing about the PS3 that is revolutionary as far as the hardware is concerned. Sony needs 3rd party devs to revolutionize for them this time around, because nothing in their hardware or software lineup looks any different from last generation except for the number of polygons they're pushing to the screen.

    Meanwhile, Nintendo has been focusing on real innovation, which is never really about processor speed, though it sometimes requires more power. Nintendo has asked questions about how games are played and how they should be played. Their early experiments in this new area were all conducted on old hardware (hence the GC-based dev kits), but that's a good thing. It means Nintendo did their homework before commiting themselves to the Wiimote. I'm glad they tested these ideas on old hardware because it indicates they've been working on this for a while. The Wii is not just an upgraded GC, even though the ideas were first tested on an old GC. The hardware is significantly more powerful than last generation, and I think the visuals so far are a testament to that power (I like how Nintendo always puts more focus on lighting and particle effects than on polygons, there's so much more bang for your buck visually that way).

    And Nintendo's pricing model will be the same as everybody else's. Sell the hardware at a loss (which I imagine is pretty significant for Nintendo at their current price point) and make up that loss in software. There's a significant amount of R&D capital in the Wiimote. That's far harder to develop than the simple speed upgrades that are in the in the PS3 and 360.

    Sony and MS are simply taking advantage of Moore's Law this generation, there seems to be hardly any R&D at all like it's almost a passive process this time for them. Some of the software changes in their core OSes are neat, but hardly revolutionary at this point in time (especially for a company that develops OSes as it's primary source of revenue). Nintendo has put more effort into this generation than either of them and hopefully, the changes they've made will get enough developers excited just to try them out that we'll get some great 3rd party titles for a Nintendo console, which is the one thing the GC really lacked (it had some, I know, but not near enough).

    I'd say the Nintendo is taking a Dreamcast sized risk this time around, but Sega didn't have the GameBoy lineup and the DS to save them when their ahead-of-its-time console tanked (nor did they have Pokemon or any of the other half dozen things that are profitable for Nintendo).
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